SAM 1911's

I have a SAM Omega 6 and just got the Norc chrome job and they are worlds apart. The SAM is far superior. I have handled other Norcs and none compare to my SAM. That being said, the SAM Omega 6 was twice as much as the Norc, so it is to be expected.
 
trebor2880 said:
I got the new chromed version, too. No problems with mine. You got a lemon. They're far and few between.
At least I can go through a whole clip, without a FTF. Wish I could say the same about my Sammy!
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Maybe your Sammy is a lemon, or a .40 Omega 6, in which case is the mag. or the fact that it's a .40. The SAM Omega 6 .40 is bad news, but hey, it happens.
 
It is what it is. Due to a billing mistake, I got the full size chrome Norc for $329, and I paid $650 for my SAM Omega 6. In car terms, the Norc is a winter beater, the SAM, while not a Caddy, is definitely not something you want to beat on. I'll beat the Norc like it owes me money, and if it gets a scratch I won't lose any sleep over it because I only paid $329 for it. This is my Omega 6. I think your wife would be very happy with it. I am a woman, and I am satisfied with it.

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trebor2880 said:
I have several 1911 Norinco's and one SAM Omega.
All the recent Norinco's are superior to the SAM, in fit, finish, and reliability.
Accuracy and trigger pull on both, are very good.
Plus the Norinco's are forged, not cast.
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The cast frame of the SAM is somehow inferior to the cast frame of the Spartan, that was made by Armscor, another Filipino company. Interesting.
 
kschneider said:
It is what it is. Due to a billing mistake, I got the full size chrome Norc for $329, and I paid $650 for my SAM Omega 6. In car terms, the Norc is a winter beater, the SAM, while not a Caddy, is definitely not something you want to beat on. I'll beat the Norc like it owes me money, and if it gets a scratch I won't lose any sleep over it because I only paid $329 for it. This is my Omega 6. I think your wife would be very happy with it. I am a woman, and I am satisfied with it.

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Thats very nice & i think we have a winner
 
Garand said:
So I'm looking to upgrade a .45acp handgun to a dedicated .400 CorBon, which is basicly a .45 on steriods. Would a SAM 1911 handle the punishment?
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Experts will agree, that when building a 1911, the best frame to start with is a Norinco. Best steel in the business.
 
NAA said:
If you give 'em the thumbs up that's good enough for me, too.

Personally, been thinking about the enhanced military 9mm in stainless.

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I was originally looking at that model but ended up with the Omega 6. I prefer the flat mainspring housing and wanted the extended beaver tail and safety.

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I have about 5000rds thru my SAM 9mm commander enhanced 1911 no trouble yet. Very good fit and finish for the price.I don't think you'll be disappointed with it. Shot well right out of the box.
 
The whole cast vs forged thing might have been valid a couple of decades ago but technology has come a long way. My first centre fire was a SAM 9mm commander, stainless; other than a minor issue that turned out to be related to the follower on the mec gar mags, that thing was flawless, tight and had a nice clean trigger to boot. When I foray again into the 1911 world, they will be near the top of the list because I don't think you can beat them for the money; no p1ssing about with them required.

I gotta stop selling guns.
 
transporteRR said:
Im new to guns but that dont sound like experts, dont know how they shoot but all i know is the fit & finish sucks on 2 that i saw & held
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Fit and finish vs steel quality are different things. It's hard to say how true it is, from what I read a long time ago it's true norinco uses "better" steel atleast in part because the tooling is expensive for everyone except them. But steel formula isn't everything there's also heat treating and such.
 
transporteRR said:
Im new to guns but that dont sound like experts, dont know how they shoot but all i know is the fit & finish sucks on 2 that i saw & held
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Starting with a Nork frame would be a nightmare and a poor choice with all the other options out there. The rails would need to be welded up and recut as they are so rough and out of spec loose it is ridiculous. The rest of the frame would need to be sand blasted for hours to get rid of the tool marks, sharp edges, and to smooth it up. Front strap would need to be re-radiused, back of frame would need to be recut and cleaned up around the msh and BT, trigger guard inside and out would need to be cleaned up and evened out, trigger bar grooves would need to be smoothed out.... It would be sooo not worth the effort to start a custom build on a Nork frame.
 
When I was ordering my SAM 1911 Commander as I was hesitant it may be in similar quality as the Norinco, rough less than stellar. However, today when I got to see it (will pick it up later when i get my STT), I was quite astonished at the quality workmanship.....I would say it rivals some of the top gun makers. I am happy at what i have purchased and look forward to "hitting centre of mass" in the days to come.
 
I have a 9mm SAM for my wife and son to use and had a 45 commander. I recommend SAM to any new shooters who like the 1911 and want an inexpensive first gun. That being said my first 1911 was a Spartan 45 and with 15 thou through it I can say I love that gun! The finish on the rails is very worn but it runs like a top. I recently picked up a SIG target stainless 45 and now the spartan stays home but with the SAM (or spartan for a bit more) you can't go wrong.
 
kschneider said:
Maybe your Sammy is a lemon, or a .40 Omega 6, in which case is the mag. or the fact that it's a .40. The SAM Omega 6 .40 is bad news, but hey, it happens.
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Actually I have a 40 Omega 6 and it has been fine. I think that virtually all the problems with the 40 Omegas are mag related. The mag I got with mine has been flawless but another CGN member actually gave me the 40 mag that came with his gun as it was nothing but trouble. It took me about 20 minutes of filing & stoning of the mag to get it right but now it runs excellently as well and that is with lead SWCs.

I have used 45 cal. McCormick Shooting Star mags in and they have also been extremely reliable. If you can find good mags I think the 40 SAM will run just as well as the 9 or 45. With most 1911s, the vast majority of feeding problems are nothing more than a mag issue.
 
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