Saskatchewan Spring Elk Hunt

Brassman66 said:
Just so you know my Friend, I am a legal and licenced BC Guide Outfitter with a very large Guide Outfitting Territory in Northern BC and have been for allmost 50 years. Our Clients hunt Ethically and the same goes for our Guides. If you wont hunt/dispatch Animals Ethicaly you are not welcome on our Campfires. And for you accusation being a Liberal, dont insult Ethical Hunters just becouse you are a Slob, now crawl back under your Rock !
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Yeah, I have guided for 40+ years off and on... including in your approximate area... and I am diligent about ethical harvest, however anyone who would equate animal management with "human feelings," is a seriously confused individual... and I find it difficult to believe that you are a professional hunter. Where do you draw the line when it comes to animals "feelings?" Do you oppose doe/cow tags, cuz they are "ladies?" Do you live trap and relocate mice from your pantry? Do you allow mosquitoes to drink their fill and then gently shoo them away so that they can go breed some more?

Your emotionally driven logic and your profession do not jive.
 
struff55 said:
the rm of leask is in zone 54 a very small airea zone 54 has a elk season from oct 12- nov 19 i'm not sure about the number of tags given out about 100 the point is many unsuccessful hunters
the province had a extra draw in early dec i believe 30 or 50 tags now again in march
this alone shows the poor management
the unsuccessful hunters from the first draw should have been the ones to hunt the extra elk
not opening the rm up twice with new hunters
the other thing is it's a small airea and a very small number of elk 100-200 elk maybe and they live in the north sask river bottom impossible to hunt
i live in the airea and i would not apply for a tag simply because your odds of winning the 649 are better
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Just curious as to why the river bottom is impossible to hunt?
 
Brassman66 said:
Just so you know my Friend, I am a legal and licenced BC Guide Outfitter with a very large Guide Outfitting Territory in Northern BC and have been for allmost 50 years. Our Clients hunt Ethically and the same goes for our Guides. If you wont hunt/dispatch Animals Ethicaly you are not welcome on our Campfires. And for you accusation being a Liberal, dont insult Ethical Hunters just becouse you are a Slob, now crawl back under your Rock !
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You are worse than any unethical hunter.

You look at "hunting" as a money making enterprise,

Do the animals your clients have feelings?
 
No disrespect but...Around my neck of the woods only the despicable would shoot a game animal heavy pregnant and scruffy from surviving the ravages of predation and a long hard winter.
 
Thunderhog said:
Our elk here in the East Kootenays still have their elk antlers. They usually drop around mid April. Spike bulls keep them until early May. We have lived here for eight years now.

From my experience living in the Okanagan, it's the same time frames there as well. I moved to the Okanagan in 1976, elk did not start keeping their antlers late into April until approximately the early 1990's. I have no idea what changed. Prior to 1990, the elk were bald by February 1st. Go figure......:)
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My guess would be wolves. IIRC they noticed a trend towards dropping antlers later in the year in Yellowstone once wolves were back on the landscape, so I would not be surprised if similar trends exist in other places where wolf numbers have been on the rebound.

Those early observations led to a study of over a decade’s worth of data that found an evolutionary tie between wolves and when elk shed their antlers. The longer the elk kept their antlers, researchers found, the better able they were to fend off wolves. Their findings were published in Nature Ecology & Evolution.
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https://wildlife.org/wolves-help-shape-how-long-elk-keep-antlers/

And the study mentioned. Its paywalled, but you can see the abstract at least:
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41559-018-0657-5
 
Suther said:
My guess would be wolves. IIRC they noticed a trend towards dropping antlers later in the year in Yellowstone once wolves were back on the landscape, so I would not be surprised if similar trends exist in other places where wolf numbers have been on the rebound.


https://wildlife.org/wolves-help-shape-how-long-elk-keep-antlers/

And the study mentioned. Its paywalled, but you can see the abstract at least:
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41559-018-0657-5
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You are probably accurate with that conclusion. The wolves in the Okanagan and the east Kootenays started to increase their numbers back in the 1990's.

Right about the same era when the elk kept their antlers longer.....:)
 
I'm skeptical about the Wolves. IMO wolves target Bulls that have just shed their horns because the scent of blood equals wounded animal.
 
Suther said:
My guess would be wolves. IIRC they noticed a trend towards dropping antlers later in the year in Yellowstone once wolves were back on the landscape, so I would not be surprised if similar trends exist in other places where wolf numbers have been on the rebound.


https://wildlife.org/wolves-help-shape-how-long-elk-keep-antlers/

And the study mentioned. Its paywalled, but you can see the abstract at least:
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41559-018-0657-5
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I don't see where it says there has been a CHANGE in when Yellowstone Elk shed their horns, only that Wolves target Bulls that have shed their horns, because being unarmed can make one a target for thugs.

Yes, Elk bleed when they shed their horns and yes they have what are called "Dog Killer" tines.
 
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