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Ran into 2 Sauer rifles today-each in a different shop. Very nice looking rifles and the wood on one was quite spectacular. Anyone familiar with the brand? Figure they are very high end from the $3000 tag but that may be BS too.
 
They are excellent rifles. The quality of the materials, fit and finish and the trigger are top notch. They are available in several variations and you should know which one it is before considering dropping your hard earned $ on one. The older ones - that may be in that price range - are the Model 80 and perhaps the Model 200. Those rifles were replaced by the Model 90 and 202, respectively. In their basic formats the Model 80/90 was quite a bit more expensive than the 200/202.

Take a look at their web site for more info. There are many variations of these rifles - especially with the 202 - and those variations will of course will be reflected in the price. I've seen steel receiver 202s with synthetic stocks for about $1700 new, wood stock basic 202s with steel receiver for just under $2000 new. The 90's were discontinued quite some time ago and the last ones I saw new were about $2500 - 20 years ago.

By way of comparison, I have a Kettner (Germany) catalogue from 2002 and the prices were as follows:
Sauer 90 basic - $3100 to $3300
Sauer 90 Luxus - add $600
Sauer 90 Full Stock - $3200

Sauer 202 Euro (basic) - $2350 to $2580
Sauer 202 Europa - $2940 to $3180
Sauer 202 Luxus - $3350 to $3550
with basic engraving add $500 to Luxus price

Sauer 202 250th Year Limited Edition - $11,600
Platinum version of 250th - in .30-06 only, and only 10 made - $21,500
 
They are a very old, respected firm with skilled craftsmen and modern tooling. The guns are of the very highest quality. I own two Sauers, both old prewar drillings. My brother has one inherited from our dad, who visited the factory and had a model 200 built to his specifications. They are worth the price.
 
I have a model 200 wood stock with 5 barrels in different cal's. You can't really get a better combination. To bad the barrels and magazines cost so much money now. I got my extra barrels from a jobber/dealer in the US at a reasonable price and the gun in bellingham Wa for a steal.
 
The model 90 was discontinued in 2007/8 I believe.

I have shot a few different Model 90's and never a 200/202. However I would love a 202! The 90 was a smooth, accurate well made rifle but the camming lugs at the rear never really did it for me.
 
bogie said:
Ran into 2 Sauer rifles today-each in a different shop. Very nice looking rifles and the wood on one was quite spectacular. Anyone familiar with the brand? Figure they are very high end from the $3000 tag but that may be BS too.
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I had nice DL LH Sauer mod 200 AL receiver with two barrels; 30-06Spr & 6,5-57Mauser in late 80' for about 5 years till receivers clamp holding the barrel developed the crack, now it is a pile of scrap and spare parts....Service from Sigarms in case something goes wrong is poor to nil, trust me I tried.... my 2c...? If money is non issue then buy one (steel receiver only) otherwise they are not better than Sako for half the price.
 
Will have to have a deeper look into this but if support is nonexistant for a $3000 gun then I will get something else. Sadly Sako is pretty much impossible to get in a leftie bolt. But there is Dakota and Kimber to look at. Thanks for that little tidbit. Lot of moulah to throw at something that could turn to junk.
 
That's the first bad thing I have ever heard about Sauer. They are a 260 year old company and I suspect that if they heard from you they would make the problem right. Not better than a Sako? Well, each is entitled to their opinion. I have yet to see a piece of lumber on a Sako that is even close to a basic Sauer 90. The Sauer is fully customizable from the factory and has a set trigger. The Sauer 202 is a switch barrel so you can have several chamberings within a few minutes. The 202 is available as a takedown. And Sako hasn't really offered a good quality synthetic stock since the old Finnfibers, yet they still charge a pretty penny. IMO Sako is overpriced. If you want to talk about price then consider that a Sako Stainless Synthetic is more than 2x the price of a T3 Lite Stainless. Sure the T3 has a few plastic parts, but that hardly justifies the difference in price.

I used to buy Sako and was especially fond of the Finnfiber - and most of the pre Model 75 rifles - but the new ones are a bit pricey, imo.
 
1899 said:
That's the first bad thing I have ever heard about Sauer. They are a 260 year old company and I suspect that if they heard from you they would make the problem right.
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Well, fact is I didn't try to contact the company directly jet, if you have their PR guy or consumer complaint department or better jet their head honcho address in Germany I would certainly try to contact them. Thanks for excelent sugestion.
 
What about the shop you bought it from? Does the shop not service what they sell? I have 2 places here in Van and I would be really surprised if they woud let me suffer a problem like this. Then again they are all gun owning hunters too. Both shops have smiths as well.
 
I would email them with all of the information (pictures too) - including Sigarms' response to your complaint:

J. P. Sauer & Sohn GmbH
Ziegelstadel 20
88316 Isny im Allgäu
Germany

Phone: +49 (7562) 97554-0
Fax: +49 (7562) 97554-801

eMail: info@sauer.de
 
The Blaserpro forum has a section devoted to these guns (Blaser, Sauer, and Mauser are all owned by the same company now, apparently) and you can get tons of good info there. The fans of these rifles seem to like them very much.

I agree with 1899...newer Sakos are not in the same league as the older ones.

John
 
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