Savage 110 Ba or Rem 700 Police in .338 lapua?

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I am in the market for a nice long range, heavy hitter. Why? I don't know, just cause... :D

I would love a 50 cal, but just can't really justify the initial minimum 5G's.

So I have narrowed it down to the Remington 700P in .338, I really love the way this gun looks, but it has a few negatives. The major one for me is its barrel is only 24", this seems too short for a .338. The cost of this gun is great, and I just like the way it looks.

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The Savage has allot of pro's, it comes with a 20 MOA rail, a better muzzle break, a 26" barrel, but I'm not a hug fan of the looks.

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I figure once you add in a rail and new muzzle break on the Remington these two would be right in the same cost range.

So what I'm looking for is, which would you buy and why?

Any good or bad experiences with either? which one do you guys figure is more accurate. I have access to my own range (ranch) where I can shoot to 2000 if my gun and me can manage. :rolleyes:

Thanks :)
 
haha im having the same debate lol

edit: wolverine supplies can now import the ar-30 you should look into that rifle aswell might be worth it around the same price as the savage i think...
 
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Gents, I'm sorry, but I don't care what they look like on paper, i care about their results. I'll add some bias... I am a hopelessly addicted (and just plain hopeless) F-Class shooter (300-1000 yds). If you excluded custom actions from the list, the overwhelming #1 coice for an action in a precision rifle is Remington. They are damned strong, they are incredibly safe, and they work.

There has been the objection made that Reminton actions are not designed for the lapua case. True....BUT, do you seriously think that a US (read: Litegenous-paranoid) retailer would market a product that would pose even a modicum of risk to the lowest common denominator?

Back to my point... The best (in this case BETTER) gun is the one that provides you with the most value for the dollar. They both shoot, they are both safe and they are both equally accurate. Factory guns are factory guns are essentially the same. Buy what appeals to your budget and sense of style. Don't buy into any internet BS that says one is obviously superior to the other.
 
frontier advertises them with a 26 inch barrel.

700P in .338 Lapua features a composite stocks reinforced with Du Pont Kevlar and fiberglass. They'll stay dimensionally stable in any weather and under the worst tactical situations. The stock is laid up around an aircraft-grade aluminum bedding block that runs up the entire length of the receiver. It has a textured, black, non-reflective finish and comes with sling swivel studs.

NOTE: This is the NEW IMPROVED version. Not the older version (MLR) with barrel issues.

Specifications
•.338 Lapua
•26" Barrel with 1:10 Twist
•Custom Shop Trigger set below 4.0 pounds
•HS PRecision Stock w/aluminum chassis
•3/4 Inch Recoil Pad
•3 Sling Swivel Studs
•Badger Ordnance TYPE Floorplate & Detachable magazine (Remington Copy)
•Muzzle Brake
•Long Action Receiver fits standard Long Action M1913 Rail systems
 
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Check on their warranties and how they stand up to use.

Brand new (unfired) Rem. 300 win mag.

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Remington said "pay for the shipping we,ll consider it"
The 5 Savage rifles I/We use for the Intro shoots we do get rained on , on a regular basis, only rust ever to show up was the screws on the scope rings. Never a prob. with the finish on the guns.
The Rem. in the pic. wasn't rained on, it was opened from its case INSIDE the class room and put back in case then back in car.

M.
 
Rem: traditional styling, lighter, more compact, easier to haul around in the bush. Muzzle brake not all that effecient - recoil would be much heavier of the two. Needs to be bedded. Bolt lift likely useable out of the box. Trigger heavier and can't be easily adjusted - lots of great aftermarket options.

Much better balance for multi position/offhand shooting. I would go with this style if I was actually going to take it in country

Savage: more bling/tacticool styling. More comfy grip ( I like pistol grips). More adjustabilities. heavier. Much more effective brake design. Needs to be bedded. I like the accutrigger and it can get to around 2lbs with a simple adjustment. Bolt lift can be pretty clunky but bolt timing solves that in a big way

Wouldn't want to drag this stock in the bush. Ok for position/bench shooting though. Expect balance to be pretty nose heavy so not all that good for multi position/offhand shooting. This would be my range or pick up truck option.

Savage factory rifles have been shooting very well so the odds of a good shooting rig is good but this will not be a match accurate rifle.

Both use similar length mags so mag fed 300's is not likely in the cards.

For future changes, the Savages gives more at home options.

I would buy neither.

Jerry
 
You have your own range? :( **cries!**

Either one will work though really IMO... But I'd probably go remington in this case, take off the factory barrel and install a Shilen or Krieger on it though. Then buy a tube of Devcon steel filled epoxy and bed that sucker solid. All said and done, you'll only be a bit more expensive then the savage minus the muzzle brake, but go without for a little bit and see if your shoulder is hurting without. But the rifle should be able to outshoot the out-of-box savage because of the match barrel.

Edit: just as a random thought, I've heard you can take regular JB weld, mix in some powdered steel or aluminum, and it should be fairly strong itself to bed with. But that is internet rumour so take it for what it's worth.
 
Good luck with the prone shooting and no muzzle brake.

I prefer to concentrate on my target and shooting form, not the impending recoil whallop.
Make no mistake. An unbraked Remington 338 Lapua will thump you really, really hard.

I agree with Mystic. I would buy neither rifle.
 
Ok, lets throw the Armalite AR-30 in here too. Is it significantly better then either of these???

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26" barrel, good muzzle break, looks decent enough, but is it as accurate?

If I could get a AR-50A1 here, there would be no question as to what I would buy.

I know I don't need a .338 lapua, or a 50 bmg, or a 408 but you guys all know how it is. I now shoot my .223 savage out to 800 yards just fine, but I want a bigger boom.

If you guys had a budjet of lets say 3K max, for the rifle, what would you do?

Thanks
 
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Check on their warranties and how they stand up to use.

Brand new (unfired) Rem. 300 win mag.

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Harrysrusy6.jpg


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Remington said "pay for the shipping we,ll consider it"
The 5 Savage rifles I/We use for the Intro shoots we do get rained on , on a regular basis, only rust ever to show up was the screws on the scope rings. Never a prob. with the finish on the guns.
The Rem. in the pic. wasn't rained on, it was opened from its case INSIDE the class room and put back in case then back in car.

M.
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Remingtons SPS's and 870's painted and blued do have garbage finishes (the xcr's are good though). We do see alot of them come through the shop. I have even seen rust on the SPS stainless models as well. Well if I were to choose I would take the savage as it has alot more options than the remington, it has a larger bolt handle, stock with a rail system,20 moa base and a brake. I am contemplating getting one to.Also the X-trigger on the remington is garbage and will need to be replaced with a timney or jewel.I found the accu-triiger to be much better than the X by a long shot.As for the finish rusting on either, I never let that get to me because I always sandblast and Arma-Coat my rifles so they never rust and always look great.
 
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Ok,

If you guys had a budjet of lets say 3K max, for the rifle, what would you do?

Thanks
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If I had a budget of 3 K I would get dennis sorenson "guntech" to build me one with whatever action, stock, barrel he recommends.

I think remington, savage and all the large manufactures build a decent rifle for the purpose of maximizing profitability.
 
3K is more than plentyful for a 338build, 3K can get you a rem700MLR 338lapua bolt face, with AICS folding stock, and decent barrel 26-28" The is absolutely nothing wrong with Rem700 action or Savage, yes it cheaply made, but it does serve a purpose, and work.
 
and remember its about who's behind the trigger too. and if u want u could always start with one of those rifles and eventually one day when your ready get a custom built and sell the rifle. u'll already have the scope and other stuff.
 
If I was in the market for a large capacity cartridge like the .338 Lapua for long range work, I would not consider a factory rifle. Compared to the cost of ammo for these things, the cost of the rifle is almost irrelevant, so I want a rifle whose performance will match the apex cartridge I've chosen, and you don't get that from a factory rifle. In other words, if you can afford to shoot a large capacity cartridge frequently enough to exploit it's long range potential, you can afford a custom rifle.
 
If you handload it's not all that expensive. The 700 and Savage 338 LM will let you get your feet wet without taking out a second mortgage. You don't need to spend a fortune to shoot big 33's at LR. As pointed out, use it for a while, and upgrade as you need. Sell off what you change, keeps the whole exercise financially viable. You don't NEED to spend a giant pile of money to have fun shooting these things, or to be competitive at LR with them. Go to an F class shoot sometime and see how many of the rifles are based on a 700 action, you'll be surprised. - dan
 
A rifle chambered in 338 Lapua is not a suitable rifle for little boys with bony shoulders, thin wallets, and dreamy eyed visions.
 
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