My dad has the 93R17GVL. He likes it. However, he has a negative bias towards .17HMR's. I think he's used the rifle 4 times. Otherwise, it's collecting dust. Refuses to sell it, but rarely uses it. His MKII GVL, he swears by. As I said, he just doesn't like .17HMR's. Believes them to be 'pussy bullets.'