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My Savage 24 is shooting 6" low at 40yds with rear sight step at maximum elevation. Options are changing front sight or some how making rear sight higher, maybe with a shim.I'd like to start with the trying to elevate rear sight?Any suggestions NOT involving changing front sight?
Thanks!
 
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Lodi said:
Buy/make a taller elevator. Install a taller rear sight or blade.
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Where can one buy a taller elevator?From the photos I can find (Numrich parts) the elevator on the rifle is the correct one. I have another Savage 24 in 22/410 and it has a lower elevator but a much higher notched blade. It shoots spot on at 40yds.The problem Savage 24 has a shorter barrel and is 22/20ga. Both barrels hit very low.
 
Spo0nFED said:
File down the front post. Replace it with something shorter. Or get a scope.
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Front sight is original and has a brass bead ;therefore, not amiable to filing down.Hence, my desire to try to get elevation from altering or replacing the elevator.
 
big bear said:
Where can one buy a taller elevator?From the photos I can find (Numrich parts) the elevator on the rifle is the correct one. I have another Savage 24 in 22/410 and it has a lower elevator but a much higher notched blade. It shoots spot on at 40yds.The problem Savage 24 has a shorter barrel and is 22/20ga. Both barrels hit very low.
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I don't know where, you did not want the front sight changed which leaves the rear sight. Brownells did/does sell a kit with generic elevators. I would just make a new one, it's a simple design. The problem with a higher elevator is that it really pushes hard on the rear sight. A taller blade is probably the better option.

As old as that model is it's possible a sight has been changed somewhere in it's past. Replacing with the correct sight might restore POA/POI.
 
Can’t remember the name of the sight. It slides into the dovetail, “Bullseye ring” with a separate elevator. Made for 22’s
Edit, found my stash
Marble Arms
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big bear said:
Front sight is original and has a brass bead ;therefore, not amiable to filing down.Hence, my desire to try to get elevation from altering or replacing the elevator.
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Not sure which rifle you are describing - I have a Savage Model 24 here - on the receiver, is stamped "Savage 24C - Series M" - is/was the "Camper's Special" - 22 long rifle on top and 2 3/4" chamber 20 gauge below. The barrels are circa 20" long. Front sight is NOT a bead - is actually part of a band that holds the upper and lower barrels together - the front sight has got a short ramp and the sight itself appears to be a round top post - it might have had an ivory or coloured "dot" on the top end of that post at one time - is mostly gone now.

My eyes won't handle barrel mounted rear sights very well any more - so I drilled and tapped and installed a Lyman 53D, which apparently is the rear aperture sight they made for that rifle - seems to work fine. The aperture is actually slightly behind the breech, but ahead of the hammer when the thing has been fired. This rifle is the type with the two barrels joined from breech until just forward of where rear barrel sight was - then they are free of each other until that clamp affair under the front sight. I understand that Savage did multiple variations about how or whether the barrels were joined together or not.

There might be some confusion about adjusting iron sights - not terribly common to do any more - basically move the rear sight in the direction that you want your group to move; move your front sight in the OPPOSITE direction that you want your group to go - up/down/left/right, etc. Setting the original rear sight in place, it is circa 15 1/4" (38.7 cm) from rear face of front sight to the rear sight "ears". You can use basic algebra / trig to calculate how much to move your sight for various ranges - say you want to move your group 6" at 50 yards - then you would have to move your front or rear sight about 0.050 or 0.051 inches, I think.
 
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I had this problem with a recently acquired lever rifle with a peep sight. I replaced the front sight with a fiber optic Williams ($19.95 at the LGS), of the correct height, and now I have the range to adjust the peep elevation to make it work. It's a simple matter to drive the front sight out of the dovetail (out to the right) and install a new one. If you are shooting high, then you need a taller front sight. They come in a broad range of heights.
 
If OP is using a Savage 24C like this one - the front sight is part of the ramp/ clamp - is nothing to swap out - would be filing to make shorter or glooping solder or JB Weld on top to make taller.
 
Never say never with a Savage

Potashminer said:
Not sure which rifle you are describing - I have a Savage Model 24 here - on the receiver, is stamped "Savage 24C - Series M" - is/was the "Camper's Special" - 22 long rifle on top and 2 3/4" chamber 20 gauge below. The barrels are circa 20" long. Front sight is NOT a bead - is actually part of a band that holds the upper and lower barrels together - the front sight has got a short ramp and the sight itself appears to be a round top post - it might have had an ivory or coloured "dot" on the top end of that post at one time - is mostly gone now.

My eyes won't handle barrel mounted rear sights very well any more - so I drilled and tapped and installed a Lyman 53D, which apparently is the rear aperture sight they made for that rifle - seems to work fine. The aperture is actually slightly behind the breech, but ahead of the hammer when the thing has been fired. This rifle is the type with the two barrels joined from breech until just forward of where rear barrel sight was - then they are free of each other until that clamp affair under the front sight. I understand that Savage did multiple variations about how or whether the barrels were joined together or not.


My problem 24 is also a 24C. The front sight is nort like yours. The sight is on a screwqed on ramp not part of a barrel band. The top of the blade is rounded like a bead, blued not brass or ivory though. I have another 2
Savage 24 (22/410) C serial number, box says "field grade" It has as front sight like you described.
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Field grade Savage 24:
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Your second picture - is exactly the front sight on this one - if that is a round topped post sight - the barrels look different though - this one is 22 LR on top and 20 gauge below.
 
Potashminer said:
Your second picture - is exactly the front sight on this one - if that is a round topped post sight - the barrels look different though - this one is 22 LR on top and 20 gauge below.
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To clarify, the upper sight (with ramp/screw) is my Savage 24C (Camper model) 22LR/20gauge. The lower picture is my Savage 24 "Field Grade" 22LR/410gauge.

Rear sight 24C, note the vertical blade is much shorter than that on the Field Grade 24. Sight adjusted to max elevation

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Rear sight on Field Grade Savage 22/410, sights set for 40yds. The ramp is not as tall as that on the 24C. Vertical piece is almost twice as tall
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VS 24C22/20ga
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That step sight lift is about as rudimentary as things get, pretty easy to replicate something to fit, hammer out a wedge and address it with a hand file to fit. Get it wrong? try again
We've had a 22 with a piece of leather lifting the sight, been in use for about 30 years, may get around to finding the right piece...... one day ..........
 
Butcherbill said:
Make a flat piece with a notch that’s taller for the rear sight face and drill and tap the existing one on the left and right of the notch, screw it on and you have a taller rear sight.
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Or, a thin plate could be simply soldered to the face of the existing sight. Done neatly, it would be an effective solution.
 
Butcherbill and tiriaq thanks! That is what I've decided to try. I figured I'd make up a few cardboard mockups to figure out the right height and then find a small piece of tin and cut /glue, baddabing!

Thank you gentlemen for your time and input.
 
The math is error/distance X sight radius= correction

It’s important to use the same units for every value including the range. If you want your answer in inches, use inches for everything.
 
big bear said:
My Savage 24 is shooting 6" low at 40yds with rear sight step at maximum elevation. Options are changing front sight or some how making rear sight higher, maybe with a shim.I'd like to start with the trying to elevate rear sight?Any suggestions NOT involving changing front sight?
Thanks!
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Switch to high-velocity ammo. File down your front sight. Get a taller rear sight. Get a better sight set. These are your options.
 
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