savage 93 17hmr groups shifting

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Having a small problem with my 17. It groups great but everytime I take it out the poi has shifted a few inches. Where do I start? I'm pretty sure its not the scope cause I put a proven weaver on it and the problem stuck around. I was thinking I would start by bedding the action unless anyone else has any other suggestions.

The only other thing I considered was temp differences each time I was at the range but I don't think it would affect it that much.
 
Mine did the same thing had a thumb hole stocked one had to sight it in nearly every time I took it out it wold group a few inches off. Don't know why
 
Mine did the same thing.

What I found was each time I was shooting I'd shoot and Aim a certain way.

Once I indexed my face on the stock the same way repeatably, the gun stayed accurate and my groups stopped moving.

Sounds wierd but try it.
 
What scope do you have mounted?? I had similar issues with my super sweet tasco varmint... tried it on three rifles, changed the POI on three rifles.

Moral of the story..... don't buy a tasco.
 
Use clay to see where the recoil lug is touching.
It should be just the rear third of the round lug and no contact on the bottom of it.
Also check for barrel contact in the stock.

And of course the obvious things like the scope bases being tight.

My thumbhole savage 17 hmr is disgustingly accurate (after bedding). I wish I could get my centerfires to shoot as well !
 
There is no visible signs of contact between barrel and stock and the fact that it still shoots around 1" five shot groups makes me think it is not a free floating problem.

It's also not a paralax prob. I'm using a banner 3.5-10 that has the bdc for 17 hmr. It also has AO.

I think it almost has to be bedding. Can anyone recommend a site that goes through the 93's in a step by step procedure. I'm just curious where to bed around the recoil lug.

Rings bases etc are all tight. That was the first thing I checked. Thanks for the help so far.
 
I think I've tried everything except the sellier and belloit (sp?) and the fmj's. I stick with the hornady's though as they seem to shoot the best. I find they all group in pretty much the same spot but the 20 grainers are about a half inch low at 100.
 
did you check out rimfire central , loads of info on there about bedding etc.

savagelh said:
I think I've tried everything except the sellier and belloit (sp?) and the fmj's. I stick with the hornady's though as they seem to shoot the best. I find they all group in pretty much the same spot but the 20 grainers are about a half inch low at 100.
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if the groups are consistent i dont think it's the bedding, unless your pulling it out
of the stock after every outing. with most of the bedding problems i've had in the
past the groups were pretty erratic. and they got tighter and consistent after
bedding the rifle. same has with scope problems. kinda of interesting, let us know how you
make out. oh ya i second the rimfirecentral post.
 
thanks again guys. I'm also a member of RFC. Thats another great forum lots of info there. I've searched that forum and I think it has to be either scope or bedding so screw it I'm going to do both. I need a new scope anyway.
 
savagelh said:
thanks again guys. I'm also a member of RFC. Thats another great forum lots of info there. I've searched that forum and I think it has to be either scope or bedding so screw it I'm going to do both. I need a new scope anyway.
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Sav

You aren't by chance cleaning it after each trip to the range are you? FS
 
No I thought of that as well. I tried cleaning between groups also and it didn't move the poi around. I usually clean it about every 100 rounds or so. It seems the groups open up a little if i don't.
 
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