Savage 99 reloading

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Hey everyone, I’ve got a really nice 1954 Savage 99 in .300savage. Love shooting it, but it’s $4 a shot now. Ridiculous. Is reloading actually worth it once time and acquiring all the required equipment is factored? Am I going to waste hundreds or thousands learning? Better to just suck it up and pay the $4 per round?
 
If you are starting from scratch, and will only be loading the one cartridge, for a rifle that you probably don't shoot all that much, it wouldn't make sense.
Do you have a friend with a loading setup? Buy the dies and load with him.
 
Hey everyone, I’ve got a really nice 1954 Savage 99 in .300savage. Love shooting it, but it’s $4 a shot now. Ridiculous. Is reloading actually worth it once time and acquiring all the required equipment is factored? Am I going to waste hundreds or thousands learning? Better to just suck it up and pay the $4 per round?

Well it cost you couple hundred for reloading gear. Then couple hundred for bullets, powder, primers.

If you shoot only a box or two it's not worth it.
 
The "couple hundred" would be if you get some used rig Or a single-shot loader. Really you'll spend around $500 or more, the Powder at ca $100/lb and bullets at ca $1/round. How many boxes of ammo will you want to buy for $1000-ish (incl taxes) ? Don't forget the learning curve.
Also, consider a diff rifle that costs $1/round like a .223 or even some .308-ammo goes that low for Mil-Surp.
 
If you are starting from scratch, and will only be loading the one cartridge, for a rifle that you probably don't shoot all that much, it wouldn't make sense.
Do you have a friend with a loading setup? Buy the dies and load with him.

I disagree. Depending on what you buy it can be done for pretty cheap. Obviously it will take some time to recoup your costs if you're only loading for one gun, but at $4 a pop for factory ammo it is certainly still economical long term.

OP it will all depend on how much you shoot. If you're going through 1 or 2 boxes of ammo a year, its gonna take a while, but if you're shooting 5 or 10 boxes a year it could pay for itself quite quickly. All you really need is a press, a scale, some components (hope you've been saving your brass!), and a few small tools for trimming and chamfering. If you buy used and look for deals you can likely get a press, scale, and the small tools for something in the ballpark of $100-200. It was under $100 for me when I did it, but that was like 7 years ago - Lee hand press for $30, Lee Safety Scale for $35, dies were $40...

The "couple hundred" would be if you get some used rig Or a single-shot loader. Really you'll spend around $500 or more, the Powder at ca 4100/lb and bullets at ca $1/round. How many boxes of ammo will you want to buy for $1000-ish ?

$1000 is ridiculous. I could buy brand new stuff for half that or less.
 
Thanks for the reply.
I don’t know anyone that reloads, or at least I don’t think I do. I guess if I bought different dies and started reloading for my 9mm, maybe it would start to repay itself? 9mm is “cheap ish” so would take a ton of time to break even on that.
You are probably right, just suck it up and pay the $4 per shot for the amount I put through it.
I have one old box that I’m saving, price tag says $14.99 for 20 rounds. The good old days.
 
Thanks for the reply.
I don’t know anyone that reloads, or at least I don’t think I do. I guess if I bought different dies and started reloading for my 9mm, maybe it would start to repay itself? 9mm is “cheap ish” so would take a ton of time to break even on that.
You are probably right, just suck it up and pay the $4 per shot for the amount I put through it.
I have one old box that I’m saving, price tag says $14.99 for 20 rounds. The good old days.

9mm is not very economical. You'd be spending a LOT of time infront of the press to break even with that. Centerfire rifle is where its at for cost savings per shot.
 
I disagree. Depending on what you buy it can be done for pretty cheap. Obviously it will take some time to recoup your costs if you're only loading for one gun, but at $4 a pop for factory ammo it is certainly still economical long term.

OP it will all depend on how much you shoot. If you're going through 1 or 2 boxes of ammo a year, its gonna take a while, but if you're shooting 5 or 10 boxes a year it could pay for itself quite quickly. All you really need is a press, a scale, some components (hope you've been saving your brass!), and a few small tools for trimming and chamfering. If you buy used and look for deals you can likely get a press, scale, and the small tools for something in the ballpark of $100-200. It was under $100 for me when I did it, but that was like 7 years ago.



$1000 is ridiculous. I could buy brand new stuff for half that or less.

7 years ago we were buying 1000 primers for 50$, 40$ /lb of powder. Could find a single stage for 25$.

Today, you are looking at 100$ for a sleeve of primers, and lb of powder depending on what you get. Then 40$ a box of bullets. Then you need to figure a load and that can use up 1/4 of your primers and bullets.
 
I only shoot a few boxes a year though it, but maybe I would shoot a bunch more if I had a few hundred rounds that I just reloaded? I don’t know. Really appreciate the responses so far.
 
7 years ago we were buying 1000 primers for 50$, 40$ /lb of powder. Could find a single stage for 25$.

Today, you are looking at 100$ for a sleeve of primers, and lb of powder depending on what you get. Then 40$ a box of bullets. Then you need to figure a load and that can use up 1/4 of your primers and bullets.

And factory ammo was $22/20 and I paid for my gear in like a year.

The price difference between factory ammo then vs now more than makes up for the increase in component costs. At $80/20, it only takes 4 boxes to save $240 if you can make it at $1/pop, which is still very much doable if you're not using Nosler bullets and you already have some brass. (#### me nosler prices are stupid these days)
 
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7 years ago we were buying 1000 primers for 50$, 40$ /lb of powder. Could find a single stage for 25$.

Today, you are looking at 100$ for a sleeve of primers, and lb of powder depending on what you get. Then 40$ a box of bullets. Then you need to figure a load and that can use up 1/4 of your primers and bullets.

Ya, I was pretty shocked when I started to add up the costs, it’s like over $2 to load one?
 
And factory ammo was $22/20 and I paid for my gear in like a year.

The price difference between factory ammo then vs now more than makes up for the increase in component costs. At $80/20, it only takes 4 boxes to save $240 if you can make it at $1/pop, which is still very much doable if you're not using Nosler bullets. (#### me nosler prices are stupid these days)

Def gonna take several years to see any profit if any. I mean cheapest route is cast bullets. Yes odd cals you are left to reload for. But it's def not cheap.
 
300 Savage is a great hunting round and if you want to use it more reloading is one way to go. Everything costs now a days but if you can find a simple Lee Loader in 300 it makes good ammo and saves a bit.
 
Def gonna take several years to see any profit if any. I mean cheapest route is cast bullets. Yes odd cals you are left to reload for. But it's def not cheap.

At two boxes a year, absolutely its gonna take a few years. At 5+ boxes a year it would pay for itself in no time though.

But even if it takes 5 years, hes getting ammo tuned to his specific rifle and eventually will be making it for a fraction of the cost of factory ammo which is unlikely to go down in price any time soon. The sooner he jumps in, the sooner he recoups his cost, and unless he is going to quit shooting between now and whenever he covers his initial investment its a win long term.

AND even if he does quit shooting before then, reloading equipment and components have good resale value so its not like he'd be screwed out of the money he invested.

Ya, I was pretty shocked when I started to add up the costs, it’s like over $2 to load one?

If you have brass from before its about $1 using mid-grade components. More like $1.30 if you need to buy brass. Can get much more expensive if you want to use high end brass and bullets, but in a 300 savage there is no reason to use anything but a regular cup and core bullet like a speer hot cor, which are about $40/100.
 
Used equipment does turn up. At shops, auctions. Decent ammunition can be loaded with basic equipment.
First thing to get is a manual.
 
Keep your eyes open for used press and dies . Once you have the basic you're set for life , vs 300 Savage is a hard to find ammo today and it's not gonna get any better.
It may take a couple years to recover the cost but you will have endless supply after that.
Adding other calibers later as simple as another set of dies
 
The "couple hundred" would be if you get some used rig Or a single-shot loader. Really you'll spend around $500 or more, the Powder at ca $100/lb and bullets at ca $1/round. How many boxes of ammo will you want to buy for $1000-ish (incl taxes) ? Don't forget the learning curve.
Also, consider a diff rifle that costs $1/round like a .223 or even some .308-ammo goes that low for Mil-Surp.

Ya, I have other guns, but this one is a special one that was handed down. I don’t mind banging out hundreds of cheaper rounds, I just wish this one wasn’t so expensive to play with.
 
You can get a Lee hand press for pretty cheap. I have a couple and still use them for rifle reloading. Biggest factor will be if you enjoy it, reloading is a hobby in itself.
 
At two boxes a year, absolutely its gonna take a few years. At 5+ boxes a year it would pay for itself in no time though.

But even if it takes 5 years, hes getting ammo tuned to his specific rifle and eventually will be making it for a fraction of the cost of factory ammo which is unlikely to go down in price any time soon. The sooner he jumps in, the sooner he recoups his cost, and unless he is going to quit shooting between now and whenever he covers his initial investment its a win long term.

AND even if he does quit shooting before then, reloading equipment and components have good resale value so its not like he'd be screwed out of the money he invested.



If you have brass from before its about $1 using mid-grade components. More like $1.30 if you need to buy brass. Can get much more expensive if you want to use high end brass and bullets, but in a 300 savage there is no reason to use anything but a regular cup and core bullet like a speer hot cor, which are about $40/100.

Damn it, now I’m starting to think it is a good idea. If it’s $4 a round now, in 10 years it will probably be $8. I have some brass, and I know that the .300 savage is just a trimmed down .308, so plenty of brass available. Anyone got a reloading press they want to sell?
 
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