Savage action vs R700 action.

For those that like the Savage target action and target accutrigger, (the one with the red tab) you can ask Savage to modify the target action to take a drop box mag. I ordered a varmin model 12 in 308, the vlp dbm and I had them put a modified target action with the target accutrigger and it works like a charm.
Denis
 
marcoman said:
I handled the new Rem. at SHOT. In a word...CHEAP.You make some good valid points athough perhaps slightly biased. Maybe there would be other capable factory offerings on the firing line if other manufacturers marketed one of their heavy barreled rifles as an "F class" rifle as Savage does? Again, kudos to Savage as they clearly have their finger on the pulse of the shooting community.

Anyway, didnt mean to turn this into another Savage/ Remington grudge match :)
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That is too bad for the 783. This was supposed to be a new cash cow for Big Green (who knows, might still be).

Oh well, I still truly regret selling my Rem Classic in 222Rem. Yep, one of those older gems. What a nice rifle.....

Had a few SPS's of recent ilk. Hard to imagine these came from the same manf.

Savage is leading the pack. Hopefully, volume will not make them faulter. Ruger seems to be changing their direction and I have been very impressed with their Ruger American.

Can any rifle have a barrel nut installed? Yes, if you can make the nut. The issue is what makes the Savage idea work so well. With a solid front locking bolt, if there is any alignment issues vs the threads and receiver, that prefit will not be true and you cant modify the prefit or action. If the chamber is not true with the bolt face or if the bolt is not properly aligned with the receiver face, you will have issues.

The floating bolt head ensures that the lugs must make full contact with the receiver face, even if the bolt raceway is not perfectly aligned. Dry fire a Savage and you can see that bolt body bounce all over the place. To a Rem or rem type custom action owner, that is scarier then another liberal govt. Does it matter?

NOPE - essentially, the floating bolt head acts as a suspension and rest of that bolt is along for the ride.

Now if the receiver threads and receiver face is true (Savage apparently cuts these in 1 operation with a big A$$ cutter), and the bolt face and rear of the lugs are true (very easy to deal with if not - seems they almost always are or close enough to not matter), and the chamber and barrel threads are true (again, easy to do during the chambering set up), ALL of this lines up and voila, straight and true without addn machine work.

It is a very positive quirk of trying to make rifle production faster and cheaper. I sincerely doubt all of this goodness was an "original" goal

But sometimes less ends up being a whole lot more....
Jerry
 
Very interesting thread,great insight.thanks for the info Jerry.I currently have an old ss boat paddle ruger 7 mag and have been deciding whether or not to re barrel and restock or get a custom build(4k).
 
I have an older Canoe Paddle Ruger M77 MKII. I have never seen the action on target/F-Class guns. I love the rifle as a hunting gun, but would only rebarrel it for hunting or plinking.
I do my own gunsmithing so owning Rem 700's is a no brainer. I did own a few Savages, but I just cannot find any love for them.
To those that love Savage all the power to you and please send some more old blued Rem 700's my way. :)
 
What about win mod 70 actions does any one use them for target actions/f-class? what are pros and cons? sorry to get off topic .
 
Almost never used but nothing really wrong with them.

Rem 700s are so common with so much stuff, most just don't bother looking at anything else.

I know of a couple of Mausers being used so just about anything is possible.
Jerry
 
I had a few savages over the years....they shot well but I hated the action, too long and clunky, and the cheap stocks were the crapiest. They have really shot up in price as well which I don't think makes them nearly as attractive as they use to be.
For a custom build you might save a couple hundred bucks starting with a Savage action.....which will still be long and clunky.
 
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