Savage Axis i XP .223 / Bolt Sticking and Split Steel Casings

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Hello,

Just got a Savage Axis 1 in .223 got it to take advantage of the cheap .223 barnaull (steel casings) ammunition and practice some paper shooting with a fairly budget friendly rifle. I took it out over the weekend shot about 50 rounds, so the rifle was hot, after firing another shot the bolt seized. The bolt could be lifted up but not driven rearward to eject the casing, took a few palm strikes to eventually unstuck the bolt. Casing was ejected normally once the bolt was freed, Inspected the casing it had split maybe 2mm down the neck. Let the barrel cool for 10-15 mins. About 10 rounds later exact same issue, barrel hot again as well. Also, throughout shooting maybe 4 separate times after firing the bolt seemed harder to bring rearward, but not requiring hard palm strikes (no casing damage these times). I'm no expert but the all of the other casings besides those 2 looked normal to me.

Looking through various forums and google regarding sticking bolts etc, most people said to send it to savage before filing or doing too much work to it as it could likely void any warrantee if I go down that route.

Some have said excessive pressure (using factory 223 barnaul 55g), scope mount bolts (have not touched them, wouldn't think scope mounts would be that intermittent 2/80 shots fired), heat (well it was hot on those occasions, but most of my other rifles seem to take that abuse alright), maybe a factory defect or bur (will likely send to Savage as it's brand new, would have to look into that though, hope the process isn't to painful or costly).

I will be taking it out again soon to test with brass case ammunition, possibly why it was sticking and or splitting being steel cased. Could be the tolerances of the steel cased cartridges cause the splitting with a hot barrel, and then the split casing causing the bolt to stick. A few mentioned the tolerances of modern guns can be quite slim, so involving heat and all that could be the problem. I'm just spit balling here. Would kind of suck if that is the issue, why I bought it in the first place was for cheap steel cased, but suppose I should've looked into it more.

Just wondering what you guys think about the steel casings splitting and if you have any knowledge on the Savage axis bolt getting stuck?
According to other threads and forums some people aren't to keen on the steel cases, I don't mind about getting a bit more dirty or metal deterioration (some people are saying it, I don't know) just want the bolt to operate normally and not seize up.
Will probably test it out with brass casings and then figure out sending it in if it's still an issue. I would like to continue using this steel cased baranul though, bought a bunch of it. Maybe someone here can tell me something,

Anyways, thanks for reading.
 
HI BCmavrick -
It's a shame you're having some issues with the Axis, but I think you have the right idea. Try out some brass ammo first. Brass is much more ductile than steel, and will swell to the size of the chamber when fired. If you don't have extraction issues, then problem solved.

If you have calipers, maybe measure a fired case next to an unfired one to see if there is much of a size difference; note that difference and let Savage know if and when you return the rifle.

The other issue with steel ammo is that sometimes they use a lacquer on the cases to prevent corrosion in storage. When a rifle is hot, that lacquer can get sticky.

About the steel cases bursting, it is also possible that Barnaul made some thinner cases due to poor quality control. I've always found that Barnaul is very decent quality ammo, but I have never used their 223 either. Given the current conflict in the Ukraine, maybe they are pumping out ammo very quickly?

Either way, if you do have any similar issues with brass cased 223, definitely return the rifle. Savage is very very good with customer service, so you won't have any worries there. But do not modify the rifle in any way before returning.

Hope this helps.
 
Try other ammunition, with brass cases.
Sounds as if your problem is ammunition related.
Incidentally, if you experience hard extraction, beating on the bolt handle can result in a broken extractor. Lift the handle then use taps from a cleaning rod to get the bolt moving back.
 
Ok, thank you both for the replies. Will try brass case ammunition and see how the rifle fares and bring calipers in case I have issues again. Good to know about Savage's customer service if it needs to be sent out. Ok noted about the hard extraction, thanks for the heads up, will make sure to bring a cleaning rod in the kit.
 
Cheap ammo will either make you angry with sticking cases from the varnish they use on steel, split cases because steel is not maluable like brass, or cheap brass stuff like Federal American Eagle that produces shotgun paterns at 100 yards. If you can't afford decent ammo, start reloading.
 
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