Savage Axis II .223 barrel life.

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Was wondering if anyone can help me out. I am thinking of getting a Savage axis II .223 for target shooting. What is the expected barrel life ( as in shots fired) of the barrel. I will be doing reloads, 55 grain bullets with 18 grs powder.

Thanks,
 
variable depending on how hot you load your rounds... How fast you shoot and heat up the barrel ect...Barrel cleaning regiment ect...

If you are looking for an axis as a target gun for your price point, you are not going to shoot enough to wear out.

Most people do not wear out barrels.... Even the ones who can afford to huck that much lead.

You seem to be a new member, I do not know if you are new to shooting or not.

This is a good entry gun to learn on, I still recommend you buy it and I bet it will serve you well. You will likely buy a different gun if you become serious or competitive with target shooting.

This axis will live as long as you do likely.

As for your reload specs, that will depend on the barrel of the individual gun...It will tell you what it likes.
 
It should shoot 55 grains acceptably, bu your rifle will tell you what it likes. If it isn't the heavy barrel long shot strings may cook the barrel faster. You didn't specify the powder so I can't say if it is warm or not. If you care for the barrel and don't keep shooting it when it is hot I suspect you won't shoot it out unless you set out to do so. I know one .223 with 2000 rounds through it and match grade accuracy has just started to drop off, still more than accurate enough for varmints inside 400 yards and hitting a 12" steel plate at 500 and another that has finally given up acceptable for any purpose accuracy after just shy of 9000 rounds.
My .223's are my most shot rifles, neither have lost accuracy yet ones got just under 1000 rounds through it I've owned it since new, its a light sporter with a 1-9 twist and loves 60 grain bullets. My target, well heavy barrel large scoped, has a 1-12 twist and loves 52 grain matchkings and 55 grain flatbase soft points. I bought it used and have no idea how many rounds it has fired before I owned it. When I run out of matchkings I will probably rebarrel it, not because of accuracy but because I'd like a 1-7 for heavier bullets.
 
follow the mag-10-15 rules, shoot 5 rounds every 10-15 minutes to let the barrel cool down you wont have any problem , cousin have one in 270 win I put more than 3500 shot down the pipe and still accurate and I have the first model sav axis whit regular barrel yours is better sav axis II don't shoot it like a AK47 and went you get 6-8 inch at 250-300 yards just change the barrel ps and for your sake get the bull barrel one and you will past it to your children one days have fun
 
Thanks everyone for your helpful comments. I am 64 now and I might shoot 200 to 300 rounds a year. I plan on taking care of it, so it will probably outlive me, lol. Thanks again.
 
big cal said:
follow the mag-10-15 rules, shoot 5 rounds every 10-15 minutes to let the barrel cool down you wont have any problem , cousin have one in 270 win I put more than 3500 shot down the pipe and still accurate and I have the first model sav axis whit regular barrel yours is better sav axis II don't shoot it like a AK47 and went you get 6-8 inch at 250-300 yards just change the barrel ps and for your sake get the bull barrel one and you will past it to your children one days have fun
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That’s a stupid rule. It’s a bolt action; you will never prematurely wear out the barrel due to use. Shoot it as much as you like, it should last 10000 to 20000 rounds without major issue.
 
big cal said:
follow the mag-10-15 rules, shoot 5 rounds every 10-15 minutes to let the barrel cool down you wont have any problem , cousin have one in 270 win I put more than 3500 shot down the pipe and still accurate and I have the first model sav axis whit regular barrel yours is better sav axis II don't shoot it like a AK47 and went you get 6-8 inch at 250-300 yards just change the barrel ps and for your sake get the bull barrel one and you will past it to your children one days have fun
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5 rounds every 10-15 minutes... Boooring

This isnt a precision rig that looses accuracy if you look at it for too long, its an Axis.

OP: at 300-400 rounds per year you wont see the end of this rifle. It should shoot 55gr bullet just fine ,with some load development, to easily break clays up to 300-400m if you do your part.

Enjoy your Axis, its a good little rifle
 
At that alow of volume you wont wear the barrel out.
The 223 is fairly easy on barrels. Let the barrel cool between strings of shots and only clean when you have to
 
brybenn said:
If use doesnt burn out a barrel can you explain to me why my 2506 barrel has no throat
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I didn't say use doesn't wear out barrels. I stated that being a bolt action, it's impossible to prematurely wear out a barrel by shooting it. In other words, you will never achieve a high enough cyclic rate in a bolt action to experience wear faster than what can be expected on average. Shooting 1000 rounds in an hour will cause the same wear as shooting 1000 rounds in a year. Although, achieving such a high cyclic rate could only be done with a support team loading magazines and the shooter having no regard for accuracy. Neither of which are very practical scenarios.
 
Blastattack said:
I didn't say use doesn't wear out barrels. I stated that being a bolt action, it's impossible to prematurely wear out a barrel by shooting it. In other words, you will never achieve a high enough cyclic rate in a bolt action to experience wear faster than what can be expected on average. Shooting 1000 rounds in an hour will cause the same wear as shooting 1000 rounds in a year. Although, achieving such a high cyclic rate could only be done with a support team loading magazines and the shooter having no regard for accuracy. Neither of which are very practical scenarios.
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You sure can. Once the barrel is hot and you keep shooting it will erode like no tomorrow. You can wear out a riffle barrel on a bolt action in a few hundred rounds if you want to.
 
Northern53 said:
Was wondering if anyone can help me out. I am thinking of getting a Savage axis II .223 for target shooting. What is the expected barrel life ( as in shots fired) of the barrel. I will be doing reloads, 55 grain bullets with 18 grs powder.

Thanks,
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I've had a few, you'll never wear it out.
Hot loads don't usually group so if you're target shooting, you'll keep your barrel cool.
If u do wear anything out, it will likely be from cleaning it too much.
22-250 is a different story though...
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18gr of powder? That's well below the recommended minimum in any reloading data I have seen. I have an Axis .223 heavy barrel and it shoots 55gr very well. It really likes the Hornady Varmint express 55 gr V max and 55gr Federal Nosler ballistic tip factory ammo. I'm just starting to reload for this gun so don't have any solid data yet.
 
Get it and shoot the hell out of it and get another one. That's what cheap 223s are for. If in the very unlikely scenario that you manage to shoot it out, you'll find the cost of replacing it is nothing compared to the price of shooting it. Heck you'll also find that the cost of shooting volume also makes the price difference to a more expensive rifle also would have faded into insignificance.

18 grains? That almost sounds like Blue Dot loads. Also sounds a bit like fat-finger load.

Shooting out barrels are one of those things that sort of depends. I've never managed to shoot out a 223 barrel, but a 22/250 never seems to make it through the third brick of primers. My larger capacity long range rifles are lucky to make more than 1000.That might as well be infinity for the average shooter; but might only be a season for others. Long range and large capacity are a double whammy. On the one hand burning 70-90 grains at a time are going to take its toll, and on the other hand accuracy demands are higher. Barrel costs can rival ammo costs.
 
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