Savage Axis or Ruger American and what is a good caliber .270 or 30-06

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Hey Gun nutz I'm on here looking for some advice on a budget starter rifle and what caliber is better to go with between the .270 or 30-06? I will be using it for deer,elk, boars and maybe coyotes please help.
 
You have mentioned two very fine calibers.....ammunition is readily available for both. I shot a .270 for years and it is one of my favourite calibers. Personally though if elk is on the menu I would lean toward the 30-06 due to heavier bullet weights. Again, personal preference would be to go with a quality used rifle (there are some nice ones on this site for under $600) rather than a new budget rifle. And just to add confusion into the mix, the .280 Remington might be a great compromise between the two you have mentioned.
 
30-06 or 270. Yes. Pick one they will both work well with premium bullets like say partitions. As for the rifle. I have has 2 axis' sold one in 30-06 and customized the other in 223. If I was to go again I would buy an older quality used rifle because you well end up with a nicer rifle overall. There are many great rifles in the ee that once cost more then what an axis sells for.
Tradeex has a ton of husky rifles that are very good quality for $3-400. Take a look for yourself.
 
Good choice of calibers....don't rule out the Remington 783 in your quest...some of online reviews are picking it above both rifles you have mentioned. Any of them are good, accurate, entry level rifles. Have fun and confidence in the fact that your new rifle will be covered with a factory warranty.
 
Own an Axis in .243! The best rifle I've owned in it's price class. Extremely accurate!

If you're going to moose or elk I'd generally go with the 30-06 although I loved my .270!
 
mlehtovaara said:
I'm leaning towards the Ruger American.

Might want to hold out for the lightweight, or stainless models to come out though...

And the Lightweight is only available with a short action so .308 is a better choice. ;)
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I was also thinking of waiting till the sportsmen show to see what the venders bring in and are selling.
 
Either cartridge is an excellent choice for the majority of North American big game hunting, and either will do double duty as a varmint cartridge when loaded with light bullets. But the bargain basement rifle market is a race to the bottom. I would gently persuade you to consider a quality used rifle, possibly one from Tradex, rather than one of these new wonder guns if your budget is modest. As for accuracy, well IMHO, we're talking about a big game rifle not a match rifle, so there's more to it than accuracy alone. And while accuracy is nice, we tend to overplay its importance in the big game rifle, sort of a "measure it with a micrometer and cut it with an axe" analogy. How the rifle handles and balances is far more important than the question of fractions of a minute of angle of accuracy. One important aspect of a hunting rifle for me is whether I can run the bolt with the rifle at the shoulder. Some of these inexpensive rifles have pretty stiff bolt lifts. Another aspect to consider is the ease by which the stock can be made to fit you. Many inexpensive plastic stocks are cut too long for the average guy, so if you need to knock an inch off the LOP, can it be done quickly and inexpensively? If the stock is hollow plastic, you might find that's a problem that threatens to increase the cost of your rifle. If you decide to use the rifle as it comes and its too long for you, the butt will catch on your clothing as you shoulder it, recoil will feel a bit worse than it really is, and it may be difficult to acquire the correct eye relief to your scope.
 
Have to agree with Boomer, prefere the 06 myself but that is a personal choice. A light budget rifle for a main hunting rifle would not be a choice at all for me, i'd look at the Salvage model 111 before an Axis.
 
I'll say what I said before in my thread about the Axis, I've treated the thing like I'd treat Justin Beiber. I beat the ever loving Sh*t out of it, abused it, dragged it through the dirt, threw it around, etc trying to get the rifle to fail. Only thing I haven't done is toss it out of a plane it seems. The rifle has never failed nor has the stock Bushnell scope the rifle came with. :D

I'm really trying honest!

The only thing I'd like to change is a slightly more sturdy stock. But I'm not too worried about it.
 
I have the axis in. 243 and love it.I did change out the scope because I didn't like the cheap bushnell that came with it (never had a problem though, just wanted a better scope) As for caliber I have never had a. 270 but do have a 30-06 and it is a great caliber for anything you will be hunting.
 
colonel3006 said:
I have the axis in. 243 and love it.I did change out the scope because I didn't like the cheap bushnell that came with it (never had a problem though, just wanted a better scope)
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That is the reason I started abusing the scope, hoping it would fail to give me a reason to buy a new one. But I've been doing 2.2.5" groups at 350 yards with the original scope so I don't want the hassle of sighting in a brand new scope :p
 
If recoil is a factor , condider the 270 as it has a bit less of a kick , but for a single all around hunting cal. , the 30-06 is the way to go . As for the rifle , Ruger makes good products , but you may want to consider a Marlin X-7 series rifle as they are a very good shooting rifle if you can find one . A used rifle may be a good bet as well since many will come with a scope and a sling , and they may even throw in some ammo....it all adds up...
 
drache said:
That is the reason I started abusing the scope, hoping it would fail to give me a reason to buy a new one. But I've been doing 2.2.5" groups at 350 yards with the original scope so I don't want the hassle of sighting in a brand new scope :p
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I put the scope that came on my 223 on a 22lr and within a few months the scope was toast. Quality is not great across the board.
 
Lots of guys seem to like the Axis; clearly drache does and he's done more than just hold one in the store.

Personally, I found the axis stocks to be stupid long, but a youth stock installed on a .270 or 30-06 Axis would fix that.

My tendency would be to go towards the Ruger American, or maybe the Rem 783 if I wanted a new rifle in the $300 - $350 range.

Boomer's advice of an older, used rifle for the same price is really the best bet, though, in terms of value. There are quite a few used 270's and 30-06's available for the price of an entry level rifle, and they tend to have decades of good service life left in them.
 
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