Savage Edge trigger job with Yodave CZ kit

[speedjunkiesracing]

I am not a gunsmith or engineer, so use this info at your risk. If anyone has knowledge that this mod is dangerous, this post can be removed by the moderators.



Got this Savage Edge in 223 with a 40 pound trigger. Okay 6 pounds.
Found this on the net.

PART 1
Savage Edge Trigger Job "stolen from another site"
So here is What I came up with for getting a lighter trigger pull on a Savage Edge. This does not take the pull down to match levels, but rather to a 4-ish range, nice for keeping some safety in a beginners, or youth gun. And also, other than partially tapping a hole, it does not change the stock trigger and it leaves it able to revert to completely stock.

First, find a spring. they come about 1.5-2 inches long and are pretty close to the diameter of the large end of the stock spring. They come with various wire sizes and the one I used has a .017 diameter wire. It cost 46 cents. A thicker wire will give a heavier trigger.

Then you need a 8-32 tap and a set screw to fit. Get a screw about .400 long.

Remove the trigger from the gun, all it takes is the removal of the little 'E' clip and it's pin. Save the stock spring. Tap the hole that the stock spring seats in FROM THE TOP, about 1/4 to 1/3 of it's depth. Screw in the set screw. Cut the new spring to the same length as the large diameter portion of the stock spring.Set the new spring over the set screw, the cut end over the screw, this lets the flat finished end of the spring to seat in the same pocket as the stock spring.

Now, re-assemble and check it out.


PART 2
Now I need trigger springs, and found another site were the guy just used a
roll pin instead of a Set Screw to hold the spring in place.

Hey where did I put that Yodave trigger kit for my CZ452??
The springs and roll pins are a perfect match.
http://www.yodaveproducts.com/

PART 3
The install
Follow instructions above.

Remove e-clip and pin, trigger and stock spring come out.

You can see the stock spring and the blue roll pin I used to
hold the new sping in place. I used the middle spring cut to size.

Almost finished. Locktite the pin in and filed it down flush.

Passed several drop tests and trigger is much better. My guess is about 4 pounds.
I will try to get it properly tested later.

 

[yodave]

trigger job

looks like a interesting fix for that sloppy factory set up on the new edge.
looking at it though I can see how the roll pin would be a better choice over the brass tube, but hey it goes to show some ingenuity on your end.

 

[eclipse71]

Dont do that like this.
There's a way to do it, perfectly, cheaper, better, easier.
without breaking the rifle, i explain myself:
The rear hole is already threaded, put a pin or any ( device ) in it will break them.
-Slightly warm the area the break the lock-tite on the actual set crew in place.
Then remove it with an hallen key.
- Go to hardware store, buy the same thing but 3/4 inch long instead.
-Add a spring, just tad bigger to go over the set screw, and long enought to give you space to play.

Thats' it, apply a bit of lock-tite ( blue ) on the new set screw than put it in place with the spring over it.
Then, adjust it like you want.
With this set screw, you'll be able to adjust the overtravel.

- And by the way, use a cotton wheel to polish both the sear.

1$
you'll have a perfect trigger.

 

[woodlotowner]

Nice trigger info. How do you keep the bolt, however, from springing open on its own? Eh?

 

[eclipse71]

Nice trigger info. How do you keep the bolt, however, from springing open on its own? Eh?

What exactly do you mean by: Springing open on its own.

My way to do it, is absolutely perfect, and doenst change in Any manner/way the rifle/action function.

 

[speedjunkiesracing]

not so grumpy now

 

[woodlotowner]

What exactly do you mean by: Springing open on its own.

I know it's not just my Edge, since others have mentioned the same issue. The bolt, especially with an empty chamber, tends to spring open on its own. With a cartridge in the chamber this tendency is lessened somewhat (I expect because the added friction of the bolt face against the case head helps reduce the firing pin spring 'unwinding action'). As far as I can tell the firing pin spring torques against the inside of the threaded bolt cap at the rear of the bolt and thus attempts to open the action on its own. I have tried polishing the spring end and applying some gun grease to this contact point, but this has only resulted in minimal improvement. I can actually hear the spring torquing up as I close the bolt. If I loosen the rear bolt cap so it can turn on its threads as the bolt rotates into the closed position...problem gone. One would never attempt to operate the gun with the bolt cap thus loosened.

The bolt and trigger mechanism on the Savage Edge are the cheapest most poorly designed items I have ever seen on a gun. Ever. They are truly laughably cheap and wrong IMO. Makes me wonder why the original Edge had such a short run before being rebranded as the Axis. I haven't been able to look at an Axis yet, but I hope they have addressed some of the issues with this gun.

Having said this, the gun shoots extremely well. I even like the Bushnell it came with. I got what I paid for. I will probably keep it.

 

[speedjunkiesracing]

What exactly do you mean by: Springing open on its own.

I know it's not just my Edge, since others have mentioned the same issue. The bolt, especially with an empty chamber, tends to spring open on its own. With a cartridge in the chamber this tendency is lessened somewhat (I expect because the added friction of the bolt face against the case head helps reduce the firing pin spring 'unwinding action'). As far as I can tell the firing pin spring torques against the inside of the threaded bolt cap at the rear of the bolt and thus attempts to open the action on its own. I have tried polishing the spring end and applying some gun grease to this contact point, but this has only resulted in minimal improvement. I can actually hear the spring torquing up as I close the bolt. If I loosen the rear bolt cap so it can turn on its threads as the bolt rotates into the closed position...problem gone. One would never attempt to operate the gun with the bolt cap thus loosened.

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Hey Woodlotowner

With my edge the spring holds the bolt closed.

I will get my friends to check there guns for this problem.

 

[woodlotowner]

What exactly do you mean by: Springing open on its own.

I know it's not just my Edge, since others have mentioned the same issue. The bolt, especially with an empty chamber, tends to spring open on its own. With a cartridge in the chamber this tendency is lessened somewhat (I expect because the added friction of the bolt face against the case head helps reduce the firing pin spring 'unwinding action'). As far as I can tell the firing pin spring torques against the inside of the threaded bolt cap at the rear of the bolt and thus attempts to open the action on its own. I have tried polishing the spring end and applying some gun grease to this contact point, but this has only resulted in minimal improvement. I can actually hear the spring torquing up as I close the bolt. If I loosen the rear bolt cap so it can turn on its threads as the bolt rotates into the closed position...problem gone. One would never attempt to operate the gun with the bolt cap thus loosened.

QUOTE]


Hey Woodlotowner

With my edge the spring holds the bolt closed.

I will get my friends to check there guns for this problem.

So.....yours is 'torque on open' and mine is 'torque on close'. Unintended differences to be sure.

 

[eclipse71]

You have an opinion, i can sort of appreciate it.

eclipse71
I did not realize this was a competition. Me neither, but with this response you just did it..Its early and its my day off so lets break this down.

A. Cheaper- I used parts that I already had so mine FREE 1 point SJR I got the parts too, cost: 0.
As its a forum, you have to think to everybody else.
B. Better - We ended up with the same thing, except mine was FREE so 2 SJR
No, you have ( glue ) in part 2 , a part in a trigger macanism, unacceptable.C. Easier- We did the same thing, mine was FREE 3 SJR
No
D. I did not break my rifle??? 4 SJ
of course, she still firing.

E. Checked 3 Savage Edges last night, none of the holes are threaded 5 SJR
LIAR !, and i put the picture. Or all youre Edge are different from the 2 i own, I dont see own ?
F. Why would I remove a set screw when I already know what size it is. 6 SJR
Try reading a post before you bash it. YES, you should . OH wait in other theads you are bashing guys for not reading all of your post. LMAO
Stay focus, and youre problably one of is old body as i see.
G. Did not have to drive anywhere. Stores closed anyhow. So FREE again 7 SJR
The store are not closed 365 days/year, remember its a forum !

H. If you want to polish and have over travel adjustments go right ahead. 1 eclipse
I will give you this one just because you are so awesome
I know that.
I. Perfect Trigger LMAO Its a 300 dollar gun.
Compare it to a Remington 770, you'll see by yourself the definition of perfection. So SJR 7 and eclipse 1 I WIN LMAO

Oh wait I just wasted 15 minutes of my life I will never get back to type this out.
Crap

 

[speedjunkiesracing]

Hey Eclipse sorry I was a little grumpy this morning.


Okay Woodlotowner

My friends guns are the same as mine.

Question: Would it be possible that you have a left hand bolt with a right hand handle ??? Should the spring not be holding the bolt down/closed??

 

[woodlotowner]

Hey Eclipse sorry I was a little grumpy this morning.


Okay Woodlotowner

My friends guns are the same as mine.

Question: Would it be possible that you have a left hand bolt with a right hand handle ??? Should the spring not be holding the bolt down/closed??

Mine is a right hand model. You have, however, given me an idea. I'll get back to you.

 

[woodlotowner]

Nope. Mine is a torque on close. I'm still pondering the solution.