savage enfield value

"original and matching" full wood No. 4 complete with bolt and magazine - good bore and head space - thinking $800 to $1,000. Someone's "original and matching" cut down to make moose gun, probably $150 to $300. Others may see it differently. I would consider "matching" to include all the "S"'s where they are supposed to be on parts, fittings, etc., not just the bolt and receiver serial numbers. A rifle that has been through military FTR with parts swapped out to LongBranch, Fazarkely, Shirley, etc. may very well be an authentic milsurp, but is not "original and matching".
 
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$750 is my magic Enfield number. If its more it should be in excellent condition or rare. If its less then it could be a good deal or sporterized, mismatched, bad barrel etc.
 
A friend has one of the brand new ones, still in the grease, never cleaned. What would it be worth?
 
Is it a No4 mk1 or mk1*, there were a lot more mk1*, then mk1’s serial number would help, or pics would too. Any yes I would be interested!
Post some pics! Lol
Cheers
Brian
 
tiriaq said:
A friend has one of the brand new ones, still in the grease, never cleaned. What would it be worth?
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Start at $1100 and if it's a No4 MkI no star, more

1942 serial numbers in the 03C range, usually below 4000 is appx where the MkI* marks came in. Of course, there will always be exceptions.
 
Here is what a brand new Savage, in the grease, looks like.
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That flip sight sounds correct as a later war expedient rear sight for No. 4 - I do not know when, exactly, the change was approved, but no doubt someone who does will be along shortly. Pretty certain the year of make was stamped on left wall of receiver, like on a Long Branch - certainly can be figured out from the serial number - the sight, fittings, etc. should go with that year, if it is claimed to be "correct" or "original". So much "swapping" of parts could have occurred by a unit armourer in France in 1944, but also at a kitchen table in 1951 - gotta get the whole story??
 
'41 and into '42, Savages were dated on the receiver, then dating was discontinued.
The rifle in the grease is completely original, unaltered. Note the pressed front sight protector, 2 range Mk. II sight. Has a grooved handguard.
No. 4s were retained in service and upgraded and rebuilt in many countries. What turns up as surplus may or may not be as originally left the factory.
 
tiriaq said:
'41 and into '42, Savages were dated on the receiver, then dating was discontinued.
The rifle in the grease is completely original, unaltered. Note the pressed front sight protector, 2 range Mk. II sight. Has a grooved handguard.
No. 4s were retained in service and upgraded and rebuilt in many countries. What turns up as surplus may or may not be as originally left the factory.
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Very nice!
Brian
 
That one looks very respectable! Really, really resist any temptation to go at it with sandpaper - cleaning, yes, but not sanding or abrasion. Unusually, to me, the screw slots shown seem quite nice and sharp and straight - if you do dismantle it, use screwdrivers that fit properly, so as not to damage the screws!! As I have discovered, and as has been stated on this forum - full length stock No. 4 bedding edges well into the "black art involving a dead cat" arena - if it shoots well, might want to leave that stock set-up alone!! It appears as a standard issued rifle - I think it was expected to put 5 service rounds into 1" wide by 1 1/2" high rectangle at 100 feet (33 yards) or so - that is about 3 to 4.5 MOA.
 
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