Savage Like Barrel Swaps for the REM 700

Why not just do it properly?

When a barrel is properly fitted to a Remington action, you can swap the barrel yourself as many times as you want. Properly chambering threading and mounting a barrel can costs as little as $150. You're done! It can be removed and re-mounted with no issues whatsoever.

There is no concern that it was safely headspaced and your brass will work perfectly after each swap.

Non-Savage owners have been using switch barrel rigs for decades. It is the most accurate and the safest way to do it.
 
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I like the idea of being able to swab out a barrel yourself. Its why I went with the Savage's system.
Take it to a smith and wait two or more months to get it back.
If its shoots as good as the Savage, I just might give it a try.
 
Why not just do it properly?

When a barrel is properly fitted to a Remington action, you can swap the barrel yourself as many times as you want. Properly chambering threading and mounting a barrel can costs as little as $150. You're done! It can be removed and re-mounted with no issues whatsoever.

There is no concern that it was safely headspaced and your brass will work perfectly after each swap.

Non-Savage owners have been using switch barrel rigs for decades. It is the most accurate and the safest way to do it.

Exactly, besides that you can get your chamber reamed to your desired dimensions, something you will never get with a universal sloppy factory type one size fits all prechambered shilen.

Barrel nuts are a silly pain in the ass. Floating bolt heads are a cheap way to compensate for sloppy machining.
 
Why not just do it properly?

When a barrel is properly fitted to a Remington action, you can swap the barrel yourself as many times as you want. Properly chambering threading and mounting a barrel can costs as little as $150. You're done! It can be removed and re-mounted with no issues whatsoever.

There is no concern that it was safely headspaced and your brass will work perfectly after each swap.

Non-Savage owners have been using switch barrel rigs for decades. It is the most accurate and the safest way to do it.

i was under the impression it would run me just about as much as my barrel: ±400$, that's good to know :)
 
Jerry is selling custom barrels a guy can install himself for what, $600, and get good accuracy. For the people against it, you can still true this action later if you want.

These barrels will not have benchrest quality chambers and crowns but they should be very close and without a doubt much better than factory.

Not everybody can afford a $1000 tune up, the money spent on these barrels will be worth it. I certainly don't agree with Jerry all the time but on this as a good idea I do, many guys will be happy as pigs in s**t with a rekindled rifle and the sport may pick up a few more semi-serious shooters because of it.

Rob, the cost of these prefit barrels is substantially less then $600. See my website for pricing. It can certainly boost the ranks of experimentation and add some excitement to a lot of dusty rifles. A very positive thing for this sport.

These chambers and crowns ARE cut to benchrest quality as my runout guage and holes in paper have indicated. You are getting very good quality work for the $$$ spent.

If you have a look at the Shilen site and the chambers available, many of the tight neck BR type chambers ARE offered. There are FIVE chambers offered for the 6BR, 5 for the 6PPC (any smith you know have this many versions of these chambers?)

All the new popular wildcats are designed using the specs deemed best. Not listed but available include the 6.5X47 Lapua, 338 Edge, 260AI.

http://www.shilen.com/chambers.html

I bet there will be a whole bunch of older wildcats you haven't even heard off that have been used in various competitions and hunting. There are well over 250 offerings.

Reamers are gotten from PT&G with Dave Kiff's guidance. If you know anything about reamer design, you will know that Dave is THE guy to talk to when getting a chamber set up.

Both Shilen and McGowen will even use YOUR reamer and guages if desired.

I know that the 6.5-284 can even be speced for the brand of brass used (Win, Norma and Lapua). That may be BETTER then many gunsmiths who are limited to the reamer on hand.

Before thinking this is some mass produced semi factory operation, you may want to take the time and investigate. Both Shilen and McGowen are producing top quality barrels and their machining is held to the highest standards. Shilen continues to be the largest supplier of BR quality barrels in North America and likely the world.

Shilen holds their predone barrels to the same levels they hold when they build BR rifles for shooters (service not available to Canadians) and given their winning background in this sport, they know a thing or two.

'Smith installed shoulder headspace barrels work great and can be made so that swapping can be easily done (done for decades). However, it is an additional cost which may deter accuracy minded sport shooters from trying out more stuff.

For the cost of an installed blank, you can almost buy two prechambered/threaded barrels of similar quality. The more barrels you shoulder headspace, the cheaper the barrel nut swap becomes.

Barrel nut swaps will not appeal to competition shooters using Rem actions as there are too many things that need to be tweaked on the action to get it working its best (speaking about sloppy machining and poor quality control).

When calc the cost of setting a Rem, the chambering, threading and crowning usually costs $250 to $300 (not including the shipping back and forth which can add another $50). If there are BR quality smiths doing this install for $150, we need to know about it!

The truing/blueprinting and lapping can add another $200 to this. If you really want to make a top shooting Rem, you will also shim the bolt or replace with a PT&G unit. That will add approx $200 more. So you are looking at $650 to 700 just for machine work to set up that action the first time. Add in options like pinning the lug which is very helpful for making barrel swaps a whole lot easier and your costs go up even more.

Remember that if you have done a true full meal deal set up on your Rem action, your barrel threads have likely been changed from factory specs (usually recut to a larger diameter), these prethreaded barrels WILL NOT FIT. All future barrels will need to be cut to the specs of this new 'custom' action. However, if you have a custom action that uses standard threads, these barrels will shoot fantastically.

There is a reason why many will suggest going to a custom action right away instead of mucking with a factory Rem. It can take ALOT of work/$$$ to get them shooting their best. That Savage floating bolt head AND better action QC and features gives you very similar performance out of the box. And factory Savage/Stevens cost less then a similarly attired Rem.

But for the varminter, LR hunter, tactical shooter or just anyone wanting more from their Rem, nut headspaced barrel swaps will certainly do its job for a whole lot less funds spent. The thing to check is the lug contact. If one lug is not making adequate contact, lapping will help.

Ideally, you would just get a Savage or Stevens and save yourself alot of hassle if you want to barrel swap often but if you have a Rem 700 and want to join the fun, you can now.

Let me know...

Jerry

AT THIS TIME, MCGOWEN IS THE ONLY BARREL MAKER PRODUCING REM 700 PREFITS. SHILEN IS CONSIDERING AND MAY START.
 
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I figured that the gun plumbers would all chime in and deride the exercise as a waste of time. Figures, as they are the ones that stand to lose the most if people start spinning on their own barrels. Of course, lots of people will still use a smith to conventionally rebarrel their rifles, but a great many will try it themselves and be just as pleased.

Kinda like listening to guys in the oil business run down alternative energy. Always good to know someone's motivation for their opinions.
 
As opposed to sloppy machining and just leaving it like Remington?

Remington wasn't part of the equation, anyway, as said before you can get a trued attractive action in a custom configuration from Bat, Stiller, Borden, Stolle and many others for less than you can true up a remington and have something with a bit of resale value remaining, they are just so much nicer than a Savage or Remington action, to many it's a no brainer. The ability to change barrels without headspace guages and barrel nuts just makes life better! Who wants to date a homely chick when you don't have to.

Didn't mean to diss Shilen barrels, they make a great barrel as good as any and know how to chamber them. Shilens list is reasonably comprehensive for most needs but you are still stuck with what they offer, many folks want chamberings with dimensions they don't offer.
 
Remington wasn't part of the equation, anyway, as said before you can get a trued attractive action in a custom configuration from Bat, Stiller, Borden, Stolle and many others for less than you can true up a remington and have something with a bit of resale value remaining, they are just so much nicer than a Savage or Remington action, to many it's a no brainer. The ability to change barrels without headspace guages and barrel nuts just makes life better! Who wants to date a homely chick when you don't have to.

Didn't mean to diss Shilen barrels, they make a great barrel as good as any and know how to chamber them. Shilens list is reasonably comprehensive for most needs but you are still stuck with what they offer, many folks want chamberings with dimensions they don't offer.

I am sure everyone will agree with you that a custom action is going to be better than that of Savage or Remington. Some people just don’t want to spend the extra money. If you are on a budget the savage will give you some of the best accuracy with the least amount of investment. I built my new Coyote gun off a Savage 10FP for fairly cheap as opposed to buying an expensive action, trigger, stock and also having to spend the money to get a smith to headspace it properly. The OP was about setting a Remington up to easily swap barrels similar to the savage system. I don’t mean this to be rude but if you want to compare custom actions to factory offerings start another thread.
 
Didn't mean to diss Shilen barrels, they make a great barrel as good as any and know how to chamber them. Shilens list is reasonably comprehensive for most needs but you are still stuck with what they offer, many folks want chamberings with dimensions they don't offer.

As I said before, if you want to use a custom reamer, both Shilen and McGowen will chamber using your reamer so that is not a problem.

The barrel nut swap is no different then all those hot rodders modifying mustangs and camaros and Hondas. Yep, you can get some great performance but you are still working with the original 'genetics' of the car.

Custom actions like purpose built race cars provide benefits not found in most street cars. However, it comes at a significant cost.

And some limitations.

Jerry
 
Kinda like listening to guys in the oil business run down alternative energy. Always good to know someone's motivation for their opinions.

the guys in the oil business have bought like every possible patent of alternative energy anyway
 
Well, working on the first batch of barrel nuts.

Fall Sale on McGowen match barrels so a great time to get a prefit for spring fun. Best pricing of the year and good til the end of 2009.

You could have your prefit Rem 700 barrel by Jan 2010.

Appreciate all those who emailed and PM with questions and interest. Look forward to your confirmations and getting you some great shooting barrels.

Thanks,

Jerry
 
Well, working on the first batch of barrel nuts.

Fall Sale on McGowen match barrels so a great time to get a prefit for spring fun. Best pricing of the year and good til the end of 2009.

You could have your prefit Rem 700 barrel by Jan 2010.

Appreciate all those who emailed and PM with questions and interest. Look forward to your confirmations and getting you some great shooting barrels.

Thanks,

Jerry

oh and are you up-ing the prices for regular barrels by 2010? I was planning to order a blank by january :confused:
also, are you set up for mastercard now?
 
oh and are you up-ing the prices for regular barrels by 2010? I was planning to order a blank by january :confused:
also, are you set up for mastercard now?

I have received incentives from McGowen to help promote their product in Canada. Will they continue into 2010??????

I guess if the promotion is successful....then I would expect the lower pricing to continue.

As for new higher pricing in 2010, many companies are hinting at raising prices especially those tied to copper, but who knows. Our stronger dollar may offset the increase at the wholesale level. Right now all a great big guess.

Jerry
 
Got the first batch of barrel nuts onroute. For those that have PM or requested to order one, please contact me.

McGowen barrels are also on sale now till the end of the year so a great time to pick up a barrel for some Spring time fun.

Thanks to all those who have requested info on this exciting concept. Look forward to getting some gear for you.

Jerry
 
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