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Hello to all from a first time poster. After considerable research and information gathering from this great site, I believe I am ready to "pull the trigger"and order a Savage LRPV "Dual Port" in .223 (1 in 9 twist). Also, considering a Bushnell Elite 4200, 6-24x40 scope. I am fairly new to precision target shooting but intend to shoot from 100 up to 500 or 600 yards. However, I would appreciate any advise and/or thoughts concerning this rifle and scope choice before I place my order. What are your thoughts on caliber choice, "bang for the buck", and is it a good foundation to build on after I have gained more experience.
Thank you in advance and any advice and constructive comments are very much appreciated.
 
I would say that your choice is great. The Savage rifles have proven time and time again to be solid shooters out of the box and LRPV is a great action with the options of the dual port and a great trigger that is adjustable to 6oz! The 223 again is a great cal that is cheap to shoot and and with the 9 twist it should be able to stabilize the heavy bullets so you can shoot way past 600 yards once you get comfortable. The Bushy 4200 is a great scope too. I have a few and love all of them and use them for 1k stuff. As long as you are not blind they are great scopes. Good eye releif and clear optics. The light gathering is limited with the 1" tube and 40mm bell, but I find it is still good. Make sure you don't get cheap rings or mounts. Look into those as well. Great setup so far though.

Nice thing with the savage is if you want to change your cal down the road to a 6br or a 7mmWsm or whatever shoots in a short action all you would have to do is buy a $20 wrench, a $40 bolt face and spin on a prethreaded savage barrel from Shielen or another takeoff barrel if factory is good enough for you. But 223 is a great starter cal. A lot of people, myself included started with 223. Cheap to learn with and very accurate.
 
I like the Savage ( haven't seen this particular model but like the others I have owned and own ) and the Elite 4200 series - one suggestion is to go with the Elite 4200 Tactical ( 30 mm tube ) and, if you are concerned about the limited internal MOA get a rail ( Allen Gun Works - site sponsor ) with 20 MOA built in.
 
I have the exact combo you're looking at, the 12 LRPV with an Elite 4200 Tactical 6-24 x 50 (30 mm tube). I'm really pleased, and it shoots better than I do. You'll have to reload to unleash its true potential. I'm still developing the "perfect" load, but so far I've used Hornady 68 HPBT, 75 HPBT, 75 Amax, Berger 80 and 90 VLDs and it's always less than an inch @100, best I've done is 1/4 inch, if I do my part. Also shot some el-cheapo WIN-USA 55 GR FMJ last weekend, that patterned like a 12 Gauge but at least I now have the empty brass ;-)

I'd suggest you get the 1 in 7 twist barrel instead of the 1 in 9, to let you shoot anything up to 90 Gr.
 
I have the LRPV .223 with 1:7 twist shooting 80gr SMK's. I bought mine a year ago so it's left port only.

I took my 4200 6-24x40 off and put my 3200 10x40 on it to shoot out to 1000yds, due to the 4200 being limited to 26MOA (1/8 clicks). I know you can use a tapered based, but a 20 - 25 MOA base may limit your ability to zero at 100yds.

I also use a 3200 5-15x40T, but it's currently on another gun.
 
Thanks very much to each of you for your comments and advise. It looks like I am on the right track. As for the recommendation for the 1:7 twist. How will this impact on my bullet selection? I understand that the heavier bullet requires a faster twist for stabilization and accuracy but, will this limit me to using heavier bullets at shorter ranges ie: from 100 to 300 yards? What range of bullet weights will I be able to send down the 1:7 twist barrel with reasonable accuracy and performance?
 
Your twist will be more of a decision of how far you want to shoot, if you want to do out to 1000, you will be better off with the 1:7 for the heavier bullets(80-90grn), if you plan to shoot from 100-600yards all the time then a 1:9 (mostly 68-70grn match bullets) will be good. Remember, the heavier bullets have a higher BC (in BTHP match bullets anyway) so accuracy/performance/consistency will be greater.
 
Budweiser360 said:
Your twist will be more of a decision of how far you want to shoot, if you want to do out to 1000, you will be better off with the 1:7 for the heavier bullets(80-90grn), if you plan to shoot from 100-600yards all the time then a 1:9 (mostly 68-70grn match bullets) will be good. Remember, the heavier bullets have a higher BC (in BTHP match bullets anyway) so accuracy/performance/consistency will be greater.
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90 grain bullets in a 223 Remington sacrifice a great deal of speed for ballistic co-efficiency. Consequently, they are more susceptible to wind than the 80 VLD's which represent about the best combination of weight and BC for the functional maximum speeds in a 223.

It's more twist than you need, but I would tend to stick with no more than 80 grains. 90's are probably too heavy for a plain 223.
 
Obtunded. Thanks for the feedback. Since I will not likely be shooting out to 1000 yards, I will stick to my original plan and go with the 1:9 twist. I will be ordering the rifle today (no idea how many months it might take to come in!).

Thanks again to all who provided feedback...very much appreciated.
 
1-9" will be more versatile with regard to bullet weight. The 1-7" will probably spin thin jacketed 50 and 55gr varmint stuff too fast and can cause them to come apart due to centrifugal force.
 
BigUglyMan said:
1-9" will be more versatile with regard to bullet weight. The 1-7" will probably spin thin jacketed 50 and 55gr varmint stuff too fast and can cause them to come apart due to centrifugal force.
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I have shot 55gr in mine without anything coming apart.
 
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