Savage mark II Btv scope mounting

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My set of ferris 30mm rings, weaver, do not fit on the mounting studs that came on the rifle. I guess those studs must be picatinny. Supposed to be interchangeable but not in this case. So, looking for a mounting rail to go on this new gun with an ejection port of 1 5/8". Two offerings on Amazon, local gun shops don't carry anything, are 0moa and 20 moa, EGW I believe is the make. $72 and $82 for an aluminum rail, really? The prices in the states are half that. Ya I know, exchange rates, and then there is rrip off rates.
The new scope, an Arken EPL 4-16 x 44. MIL,was just about the US price plus exchange rate, so not a rip off. Got it at dante in montreal. Back to the mounting rail. It's suggested to go with a 20moa rail, which makes sense I suppose if I try to reach out there. How close in will a 20 moa rail permit?
Any body else out there sorting out this problem, some suggestions could come in handy.

PS. This scope is really nice. The rifle is also tasty. First lime with a thumb hole, heavy barrel 22.

Cheers
 

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No those bases are Weaver either #16 or 24s, not picatinny.

Why doesnt the rings fit? They're like my Burris Signature and required them to be opened up a little to slide over a weaver base. But rings are cheap.

I took off my 1 piece rail off my FV SR, in favor for Weaver bases. Allowed lower mounting. I do got a 1 piece 0 moa base I'm not using.
 
maifire said:
TMK, the problem difference with pic vs weaver are the slots; depth and space . Pic should fit weaver but not the other way around.Does your cross bolt not fit through or do the claws not grab the bases?
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The ferris rings are a tad narrow to fit the studs. I thought to force them a bit wider but haven't tried that yet. The slot on the face a sharp V shape. The studs on the gun have a flat spot between the 2 angels of the V.
The rings fit on the scope saddle on one of my shotguns, it's a weaver rail set up..
 
zebra26 said:
The ferris rings are a tad narrow to fit the studs. I thought to force them a bit wider but haven't tried that yet. The slot on the face a sharp V shape. The studs on the gun have a flat spot between the 2 angels of the V.
The rings fit on the scope saddle on one of my shotguns, it's a weaver rail set up..
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Hope this helps.


The bases that come with the Savage rimfires are a Weaver style, but not made by Weaver. There has been a few issues with some rings not clamping tight on the factory bases because of the size issue. The standard bases made by Weaver for these rifles is the #16 bases. Spend the $6 bucks and get a pair of the regular Weaver bases and you wont have to worry about it. The sticky is just a list of bases that will work on these rifles, there is several diffent heights listed, it just makes it easier to match up bases and rings to get a prefect fit on your scope.
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zebra26 said:
The ferris rings are a tad narrow to fit the studs. I thought to force them a bit wider but haven't tried that yet. The slot on the face a sharp V shape. The studs on the gun have a flat spot between the 2 angels of the V.
The rings fit on the scope saddle on one of my shotguns, it's a weaver rail set up..
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OK, I tried twitching the opening on the bottom of the scope rings and they did indeed slide on the mounting studs. I admit that was a little tense because they didn't seem designed for that treatment. They did however tighten down nicely. Having gotten that far I mounted the scope to see clearances from the barrel and it clears by a hair or two, no contact. The lens cap doesn't slip in the space. Since the rig wasn't level off I decided to pack it in for the evening and try for a proper install over the weekend.
Thank You gentlemen for your advice. Attached is what the rig looks like.
PS
The optic is 4-16 x 44mm, tube size 30mm Outside dianeter of the bell is 52.23mm
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OkayShooter said:
No those bases are Weaver either #16 or 24s, not picatinny.

Why doesnt the rings fit? They're like my Burris Signature and required them to be opened up a little to slide over a weaver base. But rings are cheap.

I took off my 1 piece rail off my FV SR, in favor for Weaver bases. Allowed lower mounting. I do got a 1 piece 0 moa base I'm not using.
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Tried it, it worked, thank you. The rings are Burris zee rings, medium. As it stands I assume the studs are 0 moa, thanks for the heads up on the 0moa base. I figure a move to 20 moa base once I've figured out the adjustments possible with this mil scope. There is paralax adjustment but I will need to once again look up miminum focus distance. I had been using a 270 for "long" range games but it was getting too expensive and for ranges over 200m I had to skip over the border to a friendly family farm. So I've decided to move back to 22, where I started.
 
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I use a simular setup on my Anschutz ( weaver bases, burris rings ) But I got the 15 MOA inserts in my scope rings.

My Savage I switched the 1 piece FVSR base for weaver 2 piece and quad lock weaver rings. The scope I got Athlon Neos has a nub on the bottom, that with the 1 piece base, required me to mount the scope higher, or mod the bass. Also it mounted it higher than I wanted.

I like Burris rings as Im not a fan of needing more clamp screws than required. Plus the Zee ones allow me to add inserts to add or remove moa if needed.

Just always had initial pain getting them on rails.
 
On the Arken site I looked up the 'Manual' for specs and the scope will adjust parallax down to 10-yds! And the TOTAL adj is 25-MRAD .
I have a Sav B-22-FV and I mounted a 6-24x50 with Vortex Low rings on the mounts - I got about 1/16" clearance,on the Obj-bell. Worked fine for 5-years. Now I've got an Athlon 8-34x 56 FFP on 'Low' amazon rings with about 1/4" clearance, but I put a kydex cheek riser on the synth-stock so it still works OK.DSCN9923.JPG
 
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maifire said:
TMK, the problem difference with pic vs weaver are the slots; depth and space . Pic should fit weaver but not the other way around.Does your cross bolt not fit through or do the claws not grab the bases?
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My Burris rings for Weaver fit on 2 different Pic rails
the slot is wider on pic, so just install the ring slid up tight against the front of the slot so recoil can't move it, good to go
 
boxhitch said:
My Burris rings for Weaver fit on 2 different Pic rails
the slot is wider on pic, so just install the ring slid up tight against the front of the slot so recoil can't move it, good to go
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I found, once you gently open to fit the rail. It is one and done deal. You never have an issue again. So to remove the rings, it only takes a gentle tap to slide off.
 
Yes, the problem here has nothing to do with the Weaver vs Pic discrepancy, and everything to do with the design of Burris rings. They are almost always a bit of a PITA to get started on a rail of either specification. They have to be aligned absolutely perfectly straight and require light tapping with a small soft mallet or tool handle to get them going, or even a very slight one-time tweak to widen the gap as described above. But they look good and hold well.

I've always expected and waited for one of those rings to snap when being installed; the way they are made in once piece that must flex slightly to grip the rail just seems so chintzy and damage-prone, but I have never had any kind of problem with them. I always install and tighten the bottoms separately on the rail, and then lay the scope on top to make sure it isn't binding at all. Lap if necessary; it often isn't. Tighten down the top caps, and you're done. Once everything is snug, the scope/rings assembly can be removed as a unit if required for servicing or rifle work, and then easily slid back into place and reattached. If you make sure it goes back into the same two slots as before, it even holds zero reasonably well.
 
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