Savage model 12 piercing primers?

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Hey guys I'm running into another problem. My model 12 in 223 is piercing primers. I'm shooting 75 amax over varget using cci 400s. Oal is 2.45". Doesn't seem to matter what the load is. I had it looked at by a smith yesterday and he set my firing pin petrusion back .010 to .055".

What do you guys think?
 
CCI400s when shot hot will pierce before the BR4s and CCI450s. They have a weaker cup. Even with moderate loads the CCI400s show primer flow into the rather large pin hole on the savage bolt face. So I suggest you go to the heavier primers in CCI.

If your varget load is over 25.0 gr then you are playing in the hot arena. I'm running 23.8gr varget and CCI450s with 75gr Hornady HPBT match bullets with good results. The a-max may or may not work as it is a longer bullet, but let your barrel tell you what it likes. With the 9 twist I am guided by others to look at the 69-70 grainers. My two bits.....

FYI, here is what I have found on the net on the protrusion subject. I have followed the advice with good result.

Originally Posted by sharpshooter
First off, you are never going to "puncture" a primer no matter what the protrusion is set at, unless of course the pin tip has a sharp point.

The tip of the firing pin will never indent the primer over about .025". It will bottom out on the anvil of the primer. Typically the protrusion is set from the factory at about .055", which is plenty long and all it does is limit the firing pin travel, giving less impact energy. .035" is optimum.
To measure firing pin protrusion, use the depth measuring rod on the butt end of a set of calipers, put the calipers on the rim of the bolt face, then set your zero on either the bolt face or the firing pin, and then measure to the firing pin or bolt face (whichever you did not use to set zero).
Here's a great picture taken by Blue Avenger:


Originally Posted by Blue Avenger

Originally Posted by thomae
The firing pin threads (at least the large diameter one that is in pieces on my workbench) are 28 TPI.
By doing the math, we find that when you adjust the firing pin, each quarter turn of adjustment equates to a change in protrusion (either more or less depending upon which way you turn) of 0.00893". One full revolution equates to a change in firing pin protrusion of 0.035714"

To adjust firing pin protrusion, you need to be able to compress the firing pin spring in order to adjust the firing pin protrusion by turning the firing pin stop nut.
I had an idea for making a Firing Pin Adjustment Tool, but Blue Avenger posted a photo showing a much better/simpler idea: Use a standard set of wire strippers/crimpers as shown in the following photo:


Originally Posted by Blue Avenger

Originally Posted by sharpshooter
After you set the FP protrusion, install the spring and the lock washer, then compress the spring and thread the cocking piece on. Adjust the cocking piece until the spring is compressed to a length of 1.900" for a short action, 2.600" for a long action.
 
Awesome thanks a bunch for all the info. I was a actually loading 23.8 of varget as well. It seems to like this load, repeatable milk jug explosions at 500m.

The only reason i know it does it with other loads is because it did it in my ladder test too. I'll try different primers and see if it helps out. The material flowing back into the firing pin whole around the pin makes perfect sense, that's exactly how it looks and you can see they have raised material around the firing pin mark. Thanks again!
 
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