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My daughter's been shooting for a couple years with the peep sights. Figured I'd move her up to something a little more substantial. Any red dot/mounting options for the Rascal?

Thanks in advance!
 
You can get two piece weaver bases for it.

I would suggest the nikon prostaff rimfire scope. Don't waste your money on the cheap $50 burris/Simmons scopes they're terrible - I have one and I really don't like it, you've got to have perfect positioning behind the scope and eye relief isn't very forgiving either.
 
My son has DIP rail on his, it provides a little more mounting flexibility than the standard 2 piece base. You don't have to remove the rear sight and it still allows use of the irons if the scope is removed. Kinney's shooting supply (US) are good to deal with for DIP products.
 
Bushnell TRS-25 is the way to go. A normal scope looks ridiculous on such a small gun and they add significant weight for the youngsters.


Like the above poster mentioned, you'll only need one base with the TRS.
 
I bought the Savage Rascal bases....and soon took them off. If your scope rings have even a small amount of beefiness to them, you'll have bolt clearance issues with the rear one. I ordered an EGW base (small, picatinny type rail) made for the Rascal=all good. I have a small, fixed power (older) Bushnell Scopechief on mine.
 
canadian hunter312 said:
Bushnell TRS-25 is the way to go. A normal scope looks ridiculous on such a small gun and they add significant weight for the youngsters.


Like the above poster mentioned, you'll only need one base with the TRS.
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I just don't see how the trs is an upgrade from the factory irons. Personally I'd rather just leave the irons over a 3moa red dot. If I wanted to upgrade the Rascal it would be to a real scope that allows the kids to shoot further than they can with the irons.
 
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Great insights and advice, thanks everyone. My intention is to get her looking through a red dot at grouse before moving her up to a bigger cal for deer this year. Those DIP rails do seem pretty slick though!
 
Suther said:
I just don't see how the trs is an upgrade from the factory irons. Personally I'd rather just leave the irons over a 3moa red dot. If I wanted to upgrade the Rascal it would be to a real scope that allows the kids to shoot further than they can with the irons.
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I assume you don't see how it's an upgrade because you've never taught young kids how to shoot? A red dot is much simpler for a child to aim and actually hit targets. This grows confidence and makes it easier for them to work on trigger squeeze, breathing control, and holding on target because they don't have to worry about lining up the peep sight. Having taught my own children and a few others under 10, aiming is the hardest part and making it easier to hit targets really helps them have a positive experience and want to shoot more.


A 3 moa dot is more than adequate for a child's 22 and is a huge improvement over the peep sight. How far do you think a child will be shooting their 22?
 
canadian hunter312 said:
I assume you don't see how it's an upgrade because you've never taught young kids how to shoot? A red dot is much simpler for a child to aim and actually hit targets. This grows confidence and makes it easier for them to work on trigger squeeze, breathing control, and holding on target because they don't have to worry about lining up the peep sight. Having taught my own childrn and a few others under 10, aiming is the hardest part and making it easier to hit targets really helps them have a positive experience and want to shoot more.


A 3 moa dot is more than adequate for a child's 22 and is a huge improvement over the peep sight. How far do you think a child will be shooting their 22?
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My 4 year old was popping 8" balloons at 20 yards within a few shots her first time ever using her rifle. She can now hit pop cans very consistently at that range with a front rest. I have 6 year old niece and she took to them very quickly as well. I agree with suther, and peep sights are very easy to use in my opinion. Lining up a peep sight is no different than lining up a red dot anyway. Your depriving them of one of the most important fundamentals by jumping strait to a red dot, the folks at savage provided the best iron sight style possible, be a shame to not use it
 
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By mid 6 mine was shooting a few styles well. He was very consistent out to 100 yards prone off a bipod, 50 yards off a set of stick and about a 25 yard off hander. They will do very well sooner than you think. I never thought he’d do as well as he did so quickly. He currently runs a 4x fixed banner. His choice in the optic.
 
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By mid 6 mine was shooting a few styles well. He was very consistent out to 100 yards prone off a bipod, 50 yards off a set of stick and about a 25 yard off hander. They will do very well sooner than you think. I never thought he’d do as well as he did so quickly. He currently runs a 4x fixed banner. His choice in the optic.
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Wow, what size target was he hitting at those ranges ? Was that with the factory sights ? Or with scope ?
 
That’s a Bushnell straight 4x banner. The 100+ yard was a 3”w x 9” H little plate on a hinge (Small gong about pop can wide and two tall) and paper. He held around 3-4 MOA or so at 1-200y and he started shooting regularly at 5 and now is 11. His shooting frequency has fallen off, with other activities etc, but can still ring steel to 450y with the .223 he’s got now and the fundamentals are certainly there.
 
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We just use the barebones TRS-25 and it has worked very well.

I know it's "better" in theory to get kids used to iron sights to build the fundamentals, but my son at 6-7 just couldn't figure it out, and stopped having fun at the range.

We put the red dot on there and now he loves shooting again (because he can hit everything).

We've got a conventional crosshair on the 10/22 and he loves that as well.

He just turned 9, and this summer I'll see if he's able to start shooting 9mm out of the iron sight Kel-Tec Sub-2000.
 
I’ve tried a few different setups on the rascal for my kids - I found that when they’re new to shooting, a red dot can’t be beat. its Simple for them to use, and when they can regularly hit targets they stay interested much longer. I currently have a DIP rail and TRS-25 on mine, both work great
 
My son used the irons for a couple years, but then we was always wanting to shoot my guns (way to big for him) cause he thought they were cooler because they’re all scoped. So I put a TRS25 on his rascal. He thinks it’s cool now too... and he seems more confident with it
 
canadian hunter312 said:
I assume you don't see how it's an upgrade because you've never taught young kids how to shoot? A red dot is much simpler for a child to aim and actually hit targets. This grows confidence and makes it easier for them to work on trigger squeeze, breathing control, and holding on target because they don't have to worry about lining up the peep sight. Having taught my own children and a few others under 10, aiming is the hardest part and making it easier to hit targets really helps them have a positive experience and want to shoot more.


A 3 moa dot is more than adequate for a child's 22 and is a huge improvement over the peep sight. How far do you think a child will be shooting their 22?
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I agree. I have just started to teach my 7 year old grandauther. She was having trouble understanding the concept of peep sights along with everything else it was overwhelming for her.
Red dot sight and a bipod installed. Now she can't get enough shooting and is doing good at 25 yards.
 
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