Savage/Stevens bolt action 30-30 rifles?

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For the life of me, I cannot understand why anyone would want one of these rifles? More than that, why would someone pay $300+ for a used one, when there are so many better choices out there for the same or very little more brand new?

For instance, why would you pay $300, used, for a 340 in 30-30, when you can buy a Stevens 200, new, in any caliber you want for $350.

And, yes, I have owned a 340, a 30-30, and shot two more, a 222 and a 225. :)

Fire away, my brothers!

Ted
 
Some folks must be aware of this as there seems to be no shortage of Savage/Stevens bolt action 30-30 rifles in the EE.

If the Savage/Stevens 30-30 rifles were a $200 rifle, they would make more sense, but I wouldn't cough $300 for one.

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The 340 seems to be shorter and lighter. For a bush gun it works well. And yes I have a 340 C that I was trying to sell. Too many people wanted me to give it away. So I sanded and refinished the stock with a nice stain, put a fixed power scope on it. I now have a gun that is good to 150 yards.

And I can load it with pointy bullets too!

I wasn't aware the stevens/savages came in 30/30. I just checked their site. The savage line does not offer any rifle in 30-30 win. And I can't find any 30/30 savages in the EE.

SuperCub please confirm your statements are fact or withdraw them.
 
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tbrwlf said:
The 340 seems to be shorter and lighter. For a bush gun it works well. And yes I have a 340 C that I was trying to sell. Too many people wanted me to give it away. So I sanded and refinished the stock with a nice stain, put a fixed power scope on it. I now have a gun that is good to 150 yards.

And I can load it with pointy bullets too!

I wasn't aware the stevens/savages came in 30/30. I just checked their site. The savage line does not offer any rifle in 30-30 win. And I can't find any 30/30 savages in the EE.

SuperCub please confirm your statements are fact or withdraw them.
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His statements are fact. The 340 series rifles came under the Savage and Stevens line. I, too, would consider paying $200 for one, but not $300. I can get a nice Marlin for that money.
 
tbrwlf said:
I wasn't aware the stevens/savages came in 30/30. I just checked their site. The savage line does not offer any rifle in 30-30 win. And I can't find any 30/30 savages in the EE.

SuperCub please confirm your statements are fact or withdraw them.
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We're talking used guns here, not current production.

tbrwlf please confirm your assumptions are fact or withdraw them. ;) :)

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Why not? said:
For the life of me, I cannot understand why anyone would want one of these rifles? More than that, why would someone pay $300+ for a used one, when there are so many better choices out there for the same or very little more brand new?

For instance, why would you pay $300, used, for a 340 in 30-30, when you can buy a Stevens 200, new, in any caliber you want for $350.

And, yes, I have owned a 340, a 30-30, and shot two more, a 222 and a 225. :)

Fire away, my brothers!

Ted
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Well Ted, the first 30-06 I owned looked just like those 340s. I think mine was a model 20, or maybe 1920. I had shot an older brothers Remington 30 Express a considerable amount before this, and I thought the Savage was the smallest, cheapest looking 30-06 I had ever seen. It so strongly resembled a brothers 22 Savage. But a still older brother had the Savage 30-06, wanted to get rid of it, so he told me that was what I needed and got $40 for it from me.
I shot a moose or two with it, before I was able to get my money out of it.
 
Most of the ones I've seen on the E.E. aren't much to look at but there was a nice one recently that sold pretty quick and had some nice wood.

Can't remember the price.
 
One reason, Ted, is that some folks really, really want a .30-30 bolt rifle, not something newer or flatter-shooting. Myself, I'd rather have back the 340 I sold than to have a brand new cheap rifle in any other chambering. I am a huge .30-30 fan myself. And they may want to own a classic rifle, which, though homely, the .340 is.
I'd go close to 300 for a very good example with a decent scope. Unscoped, yup, about 200 bucks.
To go a little further into your original question about why anyone would want one?

.30-30 cartridge: Excellent balance of killing power and recoil, ammo cheap and available, easy to reload, pointy bullets available as components or ammo, easy on the shoulder, historic cartridge well proven.....

Rifle: greater range than bow or spear. Easy to learn to use.

Savage 340: Plain but serviceable. Mine was MOA accurate with handloads (using a 3-9X32 scope). Detachable mag for those who like them, myself included. Inexpensive when new, still generally cheap, though often overpriced IN THE EE.

As I said, I wish I had kept mine, happy though I am with the Marlin 336 I traded it towards.
 
I think it would be a good starter rifle for a kid. Hack the stock off to fit and load some pointy bullets.
 
Kilo Charlie said:
As I said, I wish I had kept mine, happy though I am with the Marlin 336 I traded it towards.
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I think that's what it generally comes down to. I've kicked around the idea of buying one a couple times, but a Marlin is faster shooting, easier to scope, and will always have a better resale value.

But I may try a 340 someday. I don't think they are ugly at all. They look serviceable, and to me, only serviceable rifles are interesting . . . ;)
 
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Well Ted, the first 30-06 I owned looked just like those 340s. I think mine was a model 20, or maybe 1920.
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I think what you had there was either a model 40 (uncheckered) or a model 45 (checkered). They were only made in 30-06, 30-30, 250 Sav and 300 Sav. The 340's only came in one of those calibers (30-30).;)
 
Well Ted we quite often disagree on things but you hit the nail right on the head with the Sav-Stevens bolt gun. I heard how wonderfull they were a few yrs back, what with beong able to use pointy bullets an all. I got a chance to aquire one of those fine machines & so I did.
Yes you can use pointy bullets in the 30-30 :):):):)
But you have to seat them so damm'd deep to go thru the mag the bullet is already tappering inside the case by the time it gets seated :mad::mad::mad:
The actions are rough, sticky, course, unfinished the only smooth spot on the rifle is the butt stock.
& accuracy proved no hell either....course some-one will jump in with a 2" group at a thousand yards or so, other people always get mini fraction groups while the rest of us are always wondering why we got such crappy guns :cool:

Yet all aside they would make a good first timer deer rifle, if they were priced right.

& the Model 340 ain't much better.
Bud showd me one day how well his .223 shot groups at 100yds.
Yes very nice...all would have hit a small pizza sized target :rolleyes:
 
Kilo Charlie said:
One reason, Ted, is that some folks really, really want a .30-30 bolt rifle, not something newer or flatter-shooting. Myself, I'd rather have back the 340 I sold than to have a brand new cheap rifle in any other chambering. I am a huge .30-30 fan myself. And they may want to own a classic rifle, which, though homely, the .340 is.
I'd go close to 300 for a very good example with a decent scope. Unscoped, yup, about 200 bucks.
To go a little further into your original question about why anyone would want one?

.30-30 cartridge: Excellent balance of killing power and recoil, ammo cheap and available, easy to reload, pointy bullets available as components or ammo, easy on the shoulder, historic cartridge well proven.....

Rifle: greater range than bow or spear. Easy to learn to use.

Savage 340: Plain but serviceable. Mine was MOA accurate with handloads (using a 3-9X32 scope). Detachable mag for those who like them, myself included. Inexpensive when new, still generally cheap, though often overpriced IN THE EE.

As I said, I wish I had kept mine, happy though I am with the Marlin 336 I traded it towards.
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Well said...I've owned a couple, and thought they were a good, solid rifle.
 
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Well Ted we quite often disagree on things but you hit the nail right on the head with the Sav-Stevens bolt gun. I heard how wonderfull they were a few yrs back, what with beong able to use pointy bullets an all. I got a chance to aquire one of those fine machines & so I did.
Yes you can use pointy bullets in the 30-30 :):):):)
But you have to seat them so damm'd deep to go thru the mag the bullet is already tappering inside the case by the time it gets seated :mad::mad::mad:
The actions are rough, sticky, course, unfinished the only smooth spot on the rifle is the butt stock.
& accuracy proved no hell either....course some-one will jump in with a 2" group at a thousand yards or so, other people always get mini fraction groups while the rest of us are always wondering why we got such crappy guns :cool:

Yet all aside they would make a good first timer deer rifle, if they were priced right.

& the Model 340 ain't much better.
Bud showd me one day how well his .223 shot groups at 100yds.
Yes very nice...all would have hit a small pizza sized target :rolleyes:
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I was unaware that the 340 came in .223??? Because I thought the bolt and action liked rimmed cartridges. (222,30-30,)
Was your friends gun scoped? Using ammo the gun liked? Is he visually impaired? Cause my 340 can group .90" using my lead sled and a burris scope. (3-9x40) ..............of course it will only do this with one type of ammo, EVERYTHING else I have fed it using factory ammo shot 2" or more.
 
Bolt rilfe in .30-30 Win...

I had a Rem 788 bolt rifle in .30-30 Win once.

Now there's a .30-30 bolt worth having..... ;) :cool:

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sgt.rock said:
I was unaware that the 340 came in .223??? Because I thought the bolt and action liked rimmed cartridges. (222,30-30,)
Was your friends gun scoped? Using ammo the gun liked? Is he visually impaired? Cause my 340 can group .90" using my lead sled and a burris scope. (3-9x40) ..............of course it will only do this with one type of ammo, EVERYTHING else I have fed it using factory ammo shot 2" or more.
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didn't come in 223, they were chambered for 225 I beleive, its rimmed

I have a stevens 325 which is the same as the savage 340, I bought it on a whim but it was cheap and just needed a good cleaning. But if they are selling at $300 now I may have to look at selling it :D
 
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