Savage Target AccuTrigger Help

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I bedded a Savage FTR for a friend and after reinstalling the trigger it will continually slam fire.

I have tried adjusting the rear spring to a slightly heavier pull but it still slam fires.

I don't know much about the Savage triggers so I am hoping someone who does can help me out getting it working properly.

I searched for install instructions but all I can find is install for aftermarket triggers.

I would like to get the rifle back to him tomorrow evening so I am desperately searching for help on the matter.

TIA
Richard
 
I'm no expert but. I think the trigger can slam release when adjusted down low but the system prevents the firing pin from actually hitting the primer, unless your finger is on the trigger.
Is the firing pin actually moving when you are testing it?
Did you test it before, Maybe you haven't changed anything?

Stephen
 
I did not test it before as I had no reason to.

What I did notice when I reinstalled the trigger was that it was going off with every bolt close, even very soft close, this is what alerted me to the problem and led me to tightening the trigger pull up with the spring.


Wendell, thanks for the link but it didn't help any.

What I really need is an exploded view of the trigger group, I am wondering if a part is missing on my bench somewhere...small spring from inside maybe?
 
does it go off if you disassemble the rifle? if yes - check the bedding...you probably have some stuff interfering with trigger....
just my 0.1 cent :)
 
Barreled action was out ofthe stock when installed the trigger and found the issue.

I have it adjusted so that you can close the bolt with a little force and the sear stays put but I can still get it to let go if I slam the bolt home.

I compared the Target accutrigger to my own LRPV accutrigger and everything looks the same other than the bolt rls on the Target action looks to be crooked and is leaning towards the action and slightly rubbing on the action.

The spring in the bolt rls is in correctly, pin is in correctly holding it......GRRRRRR....why can't they make these things in one nice neat housing rather than having 6 separate pieces that all pin/slide together?

Hmmmm..Found on another forum:

TargetTerror


I dont like guns that slamfire out of the box
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Care to elaborate? I assume you are referring to the target accutrigger being light and thus prone to firing upon closing of the bolt? From what I gather about the design, if the bolt is slammed too hard, the trigger simply locks up and must be recocked to fire. Is this gun prone to actually firing upon closing the bolt? If so, where are you getting this information from?

I only prod because you're comment is the first I've heard to this effect. I want to know, as a safety matter, if and how the F/TR's design makes it prone to slamfires. Thanks.

Never heard of an F/TR slam firing. Like the earlier poster said, the trigger may unset if the bolt is closed fast and hard, but it doesn't fire. Turning the trigger up to about a pound fixes that.
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Maybe the whole Accutrigger safety feature is to overcome an unsafe trigger design?
 
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Check for interference between the front of the trigger guard and trigger assy. If this is an aftermarket stock or trigger guard you will have issues. Even going from a plastic guard to a Savage metal unit on a Stevens with a SSS trigger caused me this grief.
 
...never seen it with a Remington action or a Jewell trigger :)

Dan is gonna be pissed at you when I phone him and tell him what you have done.
 
Obtunded said:
...never seen it with a Remington action or a Jewell trigger :)
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Me either.....stoopid Savage. :nest:

Just found this as well:
The Target AccuTriggerTM has one irritating quirk. If you “slam” the bolt forward when chambering a round, it occasionally locks up the trigger. I am not sure whether this is a failsafe built into the AccuTriggerTM to prevent accidental firing, or whether it is a flaw in the design. However, if it happens, all you have to do is lift the bolt up and lower it down (without any rearward motion) and the trigger resets.

Once you get used to the action you will have no trouble. Savage includes the Target AccuTriggerTM in their F-Class rifle, allowing the shooter to avoid the expense of an adjustable after-market trigger. If I were to grade the Savage AccuTriggerTM, I would give it an A-. The minus after the "A" is because I am fussy and sometimes “slam” the bolt. Target shooters never slam the bolt, so it is essentially a non-issue.
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Sounds like poor trigger design and a whack of money spent on R&D to prevent slam firing with the blade safety thing. Sad.
 
I had the same issue with my model 12 when I bedded and install it in a new McMillan A3 stock. Easy fix was enlarging the area arround the trigger to give it more clearance problem solved
 
Issue is clearance around the sear. Any bedding that gets in there will restrict movement. Also, make sure there is enough clearance for the trigger in the stock Sometimes bedding will cause the location of the trigger to change and it will rub.

It is still the only factory action that comes with a trigger that is user adjustable well under 1lb. And when set properly, does work in its given application.

If you are still having trouble, send me some pics and I can help. There are precious few parts in any accutrigger so the odds of loosing something is slim to zip. Take the action out of the stock and see if the problem goes away.

How much adjustability do you get with any new gen Rem trigger group? Any new gen Rem trigger allow you to adjust under several pounds of pull?

I do get quite a few requests from shooters wanting to replace their Pro Mark triggers.

Jewell is a superb trigger group but I doubt it will tolerate bolt slamming when set at 2oz either.... NO match trigger will. Nor should it...

Jerry
 
I have something different with my Savage 12 LRPV and the Target Accutrigger.

It's "supposed to be" adjustable down to 6oz pull, but cannot be adjusted below 24oz.

If adjusted below 24oz it doesn't slam fire when I close the bolt, but it doesn't #### the trigger mechanism. Even had a reputable gunsmith look at it.

Me thinks they may have installed the standard Accutrigger by mistake.

In any case, it shoots like a house on fire set to 24oz..
 
CyaN1de, the Accutrigger is an answer to the masses, not actual target shooters. All Savage did was to install a safety lever, called the Accu-release lever, reposition the trigger spring, and finally grind off sear engagement to a ridiculously low amount. The angle is not an overly positive angle either. Since the trigger is a two lever design, it cannot go lower than approx 2.5 lbs without a negative sear angle. The only way you can do that and not have slamfires is to add a safety lever.

I don't use Accutriggers on any of the Savages I build although they work fine if you understand their origin and limits. For the average varmint or occasional target shooter they are great triggers.
 
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Issue is clearance around the sear. Any bedding that gets in there will restrict movement. Also, make sure there is enough clearance for the trigger in the stock Sometimes bedding will cause the location of the trigger to change and it will rub.

It is still the only factory action that comes with a trigger that is user adjustable well under 1lb. And when set properly, does work in its given application.

If you are still having trouble, send me some pics and I can help. There are precious few parts in any accutrigger so the odds of loosing something is slim to zip. Take the action out of the stock and see if the problem goes away.

How much adjustability do you get with any new gen Rem trigger group? Any new gen Rem trigger allow you to adjust under several pounds of pull?

I do get quite a few requests from shooters wanting to replace their Pro Mark triggers.

Jewell is a superb trigger group but I doubt it will tolerate bolt slamming when set at 2oz either.... NO match trigger will. Nor should it...

Jerry
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My 1.5oz Jewell BR will NOT go off no matter how hard I slam the bolt home.
 
CyaN1de said:
My 1.5oz Jewell BR will NOT go off no matter how hard I slam the bolt home.
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Same here. None of my 1.5 oz Jewell Triggers Slam fires - or have they ever slam fired at any level of force. To do so would be unsafe and not permissible for F-Class. Mick thinks I'm crazy for liking a trigger that light and he had a go with trying to make it slam fire. No-go.

When you use a fine piece of craftsmanship like a Jewell, you are never happy with junk.
 
I concur with the excellence of the Jewel BR trigger that i have, I didn't like the accutrigger on my savage so I got the Rifle Basix Sav-2 trigger and installed it and have it down to ounces and it's a beaut. as well, bottom line is, I'd ditch the accutrigger!!!
 
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Same here. None of my 1.5 oz Jewell Triggers Slam fires - or have they ever slam fired at any level of force. To do so would be unsafe and not permissible for F-Class.
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My point exactly. The abuse that would let the sear skip is silly and not something any competitive shooter would ever need to do.

When set properly, the Accutrigger will work the same.

The accutrigger is not going to get as low as a Jewell. No argument from me but it is the lowest factory trigger on the market today. So kudos for a company to make a mass market useable product that does a decent job and doesn't cost a mint.

And no, I am not in anyway saying an Accutrigger will ever be as good as a Jewell. That is superb kit and worth the price of admission.

Very few company's would ever consider something that light. Why almost all factory triggers can be measured in lbs, not ounces.

Jerry
 
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