Save old sxs or buy new sxs

1963beretta said:
Canvasback, the big question(s) here are why are you drinking Clenzoil and what does it taste like????
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Truly a work of art,but to take it duck hunting? I was out yesterday and dropped my browning (unloaded) barrel first into a ditch when I tripped over some blackberrys.I used my decoy retriever to pull it out.I could never take something like that waterfowl hunting,and I have some pretty nice pieces too,but thats me :)
 
reddog said:
Truly a work of art,but to take it duck hunting? I was out yesterday and dropped my browning (unloaded) barrel first into a ditch when I tripped over some blackberrys.I used my decoy retriever to pull it out.I could never take something like that waterfowl hunting,and I have some pretty nice pieces too,but thats me :)
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This is the one I take duck hunting. Laugh2



I'm on the far left.
The other guns are a SuperFox HE grade, a Browning Superposed Magnum and custom Fox B grade that may be the most beautiful gun I have ever laid eyes on.
 
Do you guys hunt on a golf course?

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A little off topic, but speaking on dad's gun/grand father's gun...
- Anybody else keep on referring to them as "friend or family" you got it from... even though you might have got 10/20/30 years ago ? I was making joke about that with my father a few weeks back...
 
Well Canvas I admire you and your associates but again I couldn't do it.I have several old Model 12 that I shoot pheasants and upland but all my duck hunting is done with guns that are plastic and coated .Perhaps if the conditions I hunt in were a bit more civilized I would consider it but my last Browning spent several hours underwater (salt water) .And standing in a ditch in 30 inches of water (with 24 ' boots not recommended) and dogs in and out I could feel the tears building if I had a beauty piece like that. Thanks for sharing great pic.
 
reddog said:
Well Canvas I admire you and your associates but again I couldn't do it.I have several old Model 12 that I shoot pheasants and upland but all my duck hunting is done with guns that are plastic and coated .Perhaps if the conditions I hunt in were a bit more civilized I would consider it but my last Browning spent several hours underwater (salt water) .And standing in a ditch in 30 inches of water (with 24 ' boots not recommended) and dogs in and out I could feel the tears building if I had a beauty piece like that. Thanks for sharing great pic.
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I'd feel differently if I hunted anywhere near salt water. And there are definitely days that call for a Wingmaster or an M12. But I try to use the SxS if at all possible without being insane. Those pics were from down at Lake St Clair this past November.
 
OP, honestly, I'd buy a cheap shotgun for duck hunting and take your family gun and store it away.

If you're stuck on a double, buy an old Baikal. Otherwise, get a cheap Winchester/Remington/Whatever. If you're hunting hard, you always run the risk of serious firearm damage due to a fall, a flipped boat, whatever.
 
I have shot migratory birds since the early 1960'swith my classic guns. Never fired a steel shot round
but used Tungston Matrix which is OK for FULL choke, on old guns. My loads KILL like lead .
Fix your Fox , you will love using it.
 
Well I love hunting and the gun is only a part of it .And as far as using TM sure it works great but when you are in the 2-3 cases a year I'm not paying for it.
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sillymike said:
... A little off topic, but speaking on dad's gun/grand father's gun...
- Anybody else keep on referring to them as "friend or family" you got it from ....
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The Superposed I hunt with will alway be "Dad's shotgun," and the BAR will always be "Grandpa's rifle." I didn't buy them, they did. I just use and care for them.
 
Put a trigger lock on the old shotgun , and hang it on the wall in memory of your Grandfather ; then buy a new shotgun that does not have any sentimental value , and can use steel shot for everyday field use . You will have both the memories of your Grandfather , and a new shotgun as well .
 
Brodie34 said:
What a ton of great replies you guys have given me. The pictures of the restored fox have swayed my mind to the restoration path and I will just use the specific non toxic shot on the gun when I go for waterfowl. Thank all of you so much for your thoughts! As I am only 28 years old, I'd like to go into my hunting prime with that gun and when the little ones come around, I'd like to have my grandfather's gun to show them.
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That is what I'd do in your shoes. You can buy alot of non-toxic waterfowl loads for the price of a new gun. If you are like the average waterfowler you'll shoot a couple boxes a season not a couple cases. I'd restore that gun and buy some bismuth or that type of non-toxic shot and through that nice old restored gun take my Grandfather's spirit hunting with me!
 
brybenn said:
While im inclined to agree with the above ill add that there are some modern non toxic loads safe for classic sxs guns. Theyre not cheap but they do allow the old guns to be used for waterfowl again.
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Not to mention that shot like Tungsten-Matrix from Kent will make the shotgun perform the same way it did for your Grandfather, back in the day. It makes it hard to go back to steel shot.

There was a good episode of the Orvis Hunting and Shooting Podcast a short while ago entitled "New and Contemporary Side by Sides, with Greg Carpiniello" where the host and the manager of Orvis' gun room discussed just that...new and contemporary side by sides. Definitely worth the listen if you're thinking that you would like to hunt all your flying game with a side by side.

You'll also want to consider the fact that you won't want to hunt walked-up birds with the same gun you're using for waterfowl. My Fox A Grade is choked IM/IM and would be a poor choice for walked up birds but just right for waterfowl using Bismuth or Tungsten-Matrix. Something lighter with more open chokes, say IC/M, and shorter barrels would be better for upland birds.
 
BigUglyMan said:
Not to mention that shot like Tungsten-Matrix from Kent will make the shotgun perform the same way it did for your Grandfather, back in the day. It makes it hard to go back to steel shot.

There was a good episode of the Orvis Hunting and Shooting Podcast a short while ago entitled "New and Contemporary Side by Sides, with Greg Carpiniello" where the host and the manager of Orvis' gun room discussed just that...new and contemporary side by sides. Definitely worth the listen if you're thinking that you would like to hunt all your flying game with a side by side.

You'll also want to consider the fact that you won't want to hunt walked-up birds with the same gun you're using for waterfowl. My Fox A Grade is choked IM/IM and would be a poor choice for walked up birds but just right for waterfowl using Bismuth or Tungsten-Matrix. Something lighter with more open chokes, say IC/M, and shorter barrels would be better for upland birds.
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My walked up hunting is on the prairies for partridge and pheasant. I would love a gun like your Fox.
 
Londonshooter said:
$7.60 after HST every time you pull the trigger. My Grandpa would not approve.
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Sometimes the experience justifies the expense. While i cant afford to always shoot it it is nice to have the option. Hunting is not a cheap sport. Compared to what i have invested in trucks boats kayaks atv trailers guns decoys and clothing. That extra 100 bucks to use a classic firearm doesnt seem so bad. And thats only if i need 2 shots for each duck.
Canvasback is right. Bismuth is cheaper and its what i mainly use in my 20ga

Id love to find some 2.5" low pressure tm loads as i have 4 old short chambered guns. Not sure what my husqvarna 51 is rated for load wise. But i dont want to push the wood around the locks to badly
 
brybenn said:
Sometimes the experience justifies the expense. While i cant afford to always shoot it it is nice to have the option. Hunting is not a cheap sport.
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I haven't gone after waterfowls in a while (but other than reddog), how many rounds do you guys through hunting on any given years?
- For me, it's usually a box or two...

If I was to compare the cost of ownership of firearm/hunting VS motorcycles... My hunting ammo-budget is about a weekend's worth of riding of gasoline (and that was before the price got silly). Add the $ for tires/chains/sprocket, I'm probably saving money by going hunting instead.
 
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