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Have you ever bought any guns form u.s ? I did a quick calculation and the saving is no where near the 700 range
Saving $650 buying from U.S
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This is the exact calculation with todays rate from Bank of Montreal mastercard
You buy a Colt le6940 from irunguns for $1400. You add $25 for flat fee shipping to their Alberta office. You pay with mastercard and add 2.5% to the foreign exchange rate for the date on the date of transaction. So 1425 x 1.3316 = $1897.53. At that point they ask you to pay the GST. 1897.53 X 1.05 = 1992.41. Then add $25 for shipping to your house. 1992.41 + 25 = $2017.41
If you buy from a Canadian retailer you pay $2400 + 13% = $2712
$694.59 in savings
Crazy isn't it?
As stated earlier... Many of us have 
IRG is awesome when the discrepancy is big.
I buy local when it's comparable and IRG when it's not (or there is something that can't be had in Canada.)
But keep in mind IRG is really just an impoter - don't expect them to service anything that needs servicing.
IRG is awesome when the discrepancy is big.
I buy local when it's comparable and IRG when it's not (or there is something that can't be had in Canada.)
But keep in mind IRG is really just an impoter - don't expect them to service anything that needs servicing.
OP, all you have said is it is cheaper to buy from IRunGuns. Your math does not take into account any additional costs. Additionally the retailers in Canada don't import directly like IRunGuns, so you are essentially advocating the death of the Canadian firearms retail industry.
Additionaly costs for who? And no I am advocating that Canadian retailers step it up and start getting importing licenses instead of blaming the low dollar and sitting with low or no inventory at high prices. That would benefit consumers and their business
redshooter
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Biloh...
Here's where your falling down. You state in the title "buying from U.S", not buying from IRG. As I and others have said they have a unique business model and it can save you plenty of money. That said if you wanted to have a thread about IRG that's what you should have done instead of a general statement about buying from the US. When your trying to construct an argument it helps to make an attempt at saying what your thinking.
Also as others have pointed out you stand a very good chance of running into warranty issues. IRG will take care of it, today, tomorrow could be a whole different story. If you were someone else I'd take the time to elaborate in detail, but I'll keep it short and say the US State Dept. could change the rules tomorrow and no more factory warranty. As for the Canadian Distributer, why should they deal with it, it's their piece of the pie your cutting out.
As for rude, I'm not being rude, perhaps a little disrespectful, but not rude. This is rude, you come across like you're 15, which you do, and therefore the Jr. comment. When I first started posting on forums one of the first things I figured out was spelling, and sentence structure matter a great deal. If you punch out some gibberish, and others don't seem to get your point, maybe your the problem. Instead of refining your argument you insult those who dispute your position. Perhaps it was a bit harsh to call one of your arguments stupid, but the fact is it was, and fact is in spite of my attempts at refinement I'm still a Hammer. Insult me and I'm going to give it back to you. If you want to feel welcome here stop showing people your middle finger.
Here's where your falling down. You state in the title "buying from U.S", not buying from IRG. As I and others have said they have a unique business model and it can save you plenty of money. That said if you wanted to have a thread about IRG that's what you should have done instead of a general statement about buying from the US. When your trying to construct an argument it helps to make an attempt at saying what your thinking.
Also as others have pointed out you stand a very good chance of running into warranty issues. IRG will take care of it, today, tomorrow could be a whole different story. If you were someone else I'd take the time to elaborate in detail, but I'll keep it short and say the US State Dept. could change the rules tomorrow and no more factory warranty. As for the Canadian Distributer, why should they deal with it, it's their piece of the pie your cutting out.
As for rude, I'm not being rude, perhaps a little disrespectful, but not rude. This is rude, you come across like you're 15, which you do, and therefore the Jr. comment. When I first started posting on forums one of the first things I figured out was spelling, and sentence structure matter a great deal. If you punch out some gibberish, and others don't seem to get your point, maybe your the problem. Instead of refining your argument you insult those who dispute your position. Perhaps it was a bit harsh to call one of your arguments stupid, but the fact is it was, and fact is in spite of my attempts at refinement I'm still a Hammer. Insult me and I'm going to give it back to you. If you want to feel welcome here stop showing people your middle finger.
smh. Everything I said was factual. You got rude for no reason. Possibly because you own a canadian retail business. Im not sure. You saying i come across as a 15 year old is nothing short of comical. You are the one who has a hard time contolling his emotions and therefore lashed out like a child because he didnt like what he read. The fact is most people agreed with my original post. The ones who didnt have literally no argument to stand on as It is a numbers game and the numbers dont lie. You said I am clueless when i am far from it. You seem to just say things that arent factual at all. A compulsive lying disorder perhaps. I told you to tell me what part I am clueless on but you avoided that. I wonder why....
"Instead of refining your argument you insult those who dispute your position."
Refining what argument? I gave you the exact numbers. There is nothing to refine. It is 100% correct. I only insulted those who insulted me first. We both know that. You can stop lying and saying that I insulted people first. Stop playing victim when its clearly there for anyone to read. YOU are the one who started insulting.
redshooter
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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Durham Outdoor and Bullseye London have them for about that price, google-fu is strong with this one, lol!
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Your title is wrong. You are buying from one US retailer that imports the product into Canada for you. That's the fact.
Since there are myriad threads dealing with the issue of US imported goods do a search.
Those of us that have purchased from US IRG knows the pros and cons, been there, done that. Do a search on the IRG forum for info.
Trying to compare IRG to buying from Canadian store is like comparing cross border shopping.
Instead of attacking Canadian stores why not start your own business, become a CGN business sponsor and convince us why we should buy from you.
Since there are myriad threads dealing with the issue of US imported goods do a search.
Those of us that have purchased from US IRG knows the pros and cons, been there, done that. Do a search on the IRG forum for info.
Trying to compare IRG to buying from Canadian store is like comparing cross border shopping.
Instead of attacking Canadian stores why not start your own business, become a CGN business sponsor and convince us why we should buy from you.
No it not just this thread but that dosnt really matter,the fact is you cannot buy a colt for that from the states you can however buy it for that from Irunguns fpr thay price there is a difference that you seem to not be seeing. The canadian gun market is small and it costs alot more to get the product even before the dollar tanked and now it's even worse. Are there some dealers that take advantage to gouge customers? Absolutely! However stepping up their game has nothing to do with it incase you haven't noticed everything is expensive these days next time you go grocery shopping pay attention to how much each little thing costs.
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Its distibutors that are jacking the prices up.
They often have exclusive import/distribution deals with manufacturers as well giving them a monopoly and allowing them to set the price high with no competition.
Used to be able to buy directly from a US retailer just over the border here for a small fee and they woukd do all the paoerwork and export for you. Was a great way to save a hell of alot of money. Wonder if they still do it...?
They often have exclusive import/distribution deals with manufacturers as well giving them a monopoly and allowing them to set the price high with no competition.
Used to be able to buy directly from a US retailer just over the border here for a small fee and they woukd do all the paoerwork and export for you. Was a great way to save a hell of alot of money. Wonder if they still do it...?
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I did the same bringing in a rifle that the Canadian re sellers just did not want to bother with
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With apologies to IRUNGUNS and Prophet River- Buffalo Gun Center sells to Canadians
You're in Welland?! Father in law's in the area.
For those in the Niagara area, there's always Buffalo Gun Center. I won't post the link, you can google it.
One of the things they do is sell to Canadians.
When I wanted a firearm that I couldn't find here, I bought it from them.
They charged for the paperwork, and I had to get some Canadian importation documentation myself (done online) but it was a pretty easy process.
And in a weird way it was fun to 'do it myself', and thumb my noses at the folks who said it couldn't be done.
I believe there are other US merchants in border cities who do the same, but Buffalo Gun is the one I'm familiar with.
You're in Welland?! Father in law's in the area.
For those in the Niagara area, there's always Buffalo Gun Center. I won't post the link, you can google it.
One of the things they do is sell to Canadians.
When I wanted a firearm that I couldn't find here, I bought it from them.
They charged for the paperwork, and I had to get some Canadian importation documentation myself (done online) but it was a pretty easy process.
And in a weird way it was fun to 'do it myself', and thumb my noses at the folks who said it couldn't be done.
I believe there are other US merchants in border cities who do the same, but Buffalo Gun is the one I'm familiar with.
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Not sure why everyone has their panties in a bunch. OP has a valid point. There are hundreds to be saved here. Canadian Retailer tend to jack up price way too much. IRG is a good check on them.
Just look at the latest fiasco of CZ Shadow 2.
Just look at the latest fiasco of CZ Shadow 2.
brownells.com is awesome. Wish they could setup a operation similar to IRG.
They carry everything.
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They are my goto site for just about everything other than firearms and ammo
redshooter
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I'll only speak for myself...
The OP makes a thread about buying from the US, which evolves into buying from IRG after his original statement was shot down. When his initial statement is challenged he accuses that person of being immature or being emotional instead of addressing the persons position. If he had of clarified his position as soon as it was challenged the thread would have gone in another direction. i.e., "I meant from IRG", which likely would have been followed by, "yes, great place to buy stuff from". That's not the way it happened and the OP is so mature he doesn't bother answering with a thoughtful reply, he just calls the other what amounts to names. The only thought he put into it was doing the "math", completely ignoring the other side of importing Black Rifles, which I'll address below.
IRG has an excellent and somewhat unique business, but it depends on the US and Canadian Governments allowing it to continue. I highly doubt that they would allow this if everyone who sold firearms in Canada operated in this manner. I know a little about Importing and Exporting (just a little), and getting warranty work done for Black Rifles purchased in the US and exported to Canada is solely at the pleasure of the US Department of State. That could change overnight (literally), then IRG is going to have to do the work themselves, the alternative is your on your own which is the case if you did the paperwork yourself. I'm pretty sure if you sat down for a Beer with the gent who runs the show he'd tell you he banks every extra cent, because just a word in the right ear and any warranty work going forward will be on him, or worse still impossible to continue his operation which has served us well since he started it. So support your local Gun Runner...
Having a "discussion" with the OP is like arguing with the last person I shared a place with...
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