Sawed off double barrel?

I agree, a pistol grip is the absolute worst thing you can do to a shotgun, period. I tried a pistol grip on my mossberg and hated it. For some reason though this is just on the top of the list of fun for me. I guess I've always wanted one since I was a kid...

I know how the barrels are connected, and that I've removed the main structural fill between the barrels at the muzzle, but I have taken the precaution of welding the area between the barrels in this area after they were cut to make up for that somewhat. I don't forsee it to be a problem.
 
geologist said:
I think it would be legal as long as the OAL is greater than 26"
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It's more then that when you cut a firearm. If you cut a firearm under a certain amount it becomes a prohibited device you have to be very careful call the CFO and ask what you can and can't do as cutting a firearm down can be legal but it can also go straight into prohibited as well. Making a new barrel on the other hand would be legal. Even with short shotguns you have to be careful because sticking a pistol grip can make them prohibited if they're under a certain length already instead of restricted.

If you want a short shotgun just buy the norinco double barrel shotgun that Canada ammo sells simple and legal.

you might want to read what is on this link as it explains the law in more detail

ht tps://nfa.ca/resource-items/barrel-and-firearms-lengths
 
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if I was you and wanted a camping gun like that I would leave the stock intact and just shorten the barrels. it would make it more usefull . if you needed that for a survival situation in the bush while camping - for getting food it would be slightly useless without the stock on it . easier to aim with a stock .

and the stock does'nt weigh . JMO
 
haha49 said:
It's more then that when you cut a firearm. If you cut a firearm under a certain amount it becomes a prohibited device you have to be very careful call the CFO and ask what you can and can't do as cutting a firearm down can be legal but it can also go straight into prohibited as well. Making a new barrel on the other hand would be legal. Even with short shotguns you have to be careful because sticking a pistol grip can make them prohibited if they're under a certain length already instead of restricted.

If you want a short shotgun just buy the norinco double barrel shotgun that Canada ammo sells simple and legal.

you might want to read what is on this link as it explains the law in more detail

ht tps://nfa.ca/resource-items/barrel-and-firearms-lengths
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Id10t
 
haha49 said:
It's more then that when you cut a firearm.
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No, it's not. The numbers I quoted in post #10 are written into the criminal code and are absolute. You can legally cut any barrel to 457mm (17.99") and you can legally chop any long gun down to an OAL of 660mm (25.98") before creating a prohibited firearm. Since OP is using a manual action firearm he doesn't have to worry about the 470mm (18.50") barrel length limit to keep a semi-auto centerfire non-restricted.


Mark
 
mmattockx said:
No, it's not. The numbers I quoted in post #10 are written into the criminal code and are absolute. You can legally cut any barrel to 457mm (17.99") and you can legally chop any long gun down to an OAL of 660mm (25.98") before creating a prohibited firearm. Since OP is using a manual action firearm he doesn't have to worry about the 470mm (18.50") barrel length limit to keep a semi-auto centerfire non-restricted.


Mark
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ht tp://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/c-46/page-42.html

There is the page for the law read through it make sure you understand it before cutting anything then do what you want. To get under the length it has to be made that way. Now the big question is if you got a shotgun that falls under that and was made that way and put a longer stock on it wouldn't that be illegal as well since it's under the length. The laws are kind of like landmines you got to watch were you step.

“prohibited firearm” means

(a) a handgun that

(i) has a barrel equal to or less than 105 mm in length, or


(ii) is designed or adapted to discharge a 25 or 32 calibre cartridge,


but does not include any such handgun that is prescribed, where the handgun is for use in international sporting competitions governed by the rules of the International Shooting Union,


(b) a firearm that is adapted from a rifle or shotgun, whether by sawing, cutting or any other alteration, and that, as so adapted,

(i) is less than 660 mm in length, or


(ii) is 660 mm or greater in length and has a barrel less than 457 mm in length,



(c) an automatic firearm, whether or not it has been altered to discharge only one projectile with one pressure of the trigger, or


(d) any firearm that is prescribed to be a prohibited firearm
 
mt666tm said:
So, I did it: 18.5 inch barrel measured by dropping in a dowel until it hits the bottom, and measuring that. And just at 27" measured by placing barrels to the the wall and measuring from top of barrel to the floor .. so it's legal .. I wish it could be shorter, but no dice!

Range report: No need to hold with hand over... kickback isn't that bad at all. When you go for the double-trigger at once that kicks like a mule and you gotta watch out for the tang!

Naturally you can't hit sh1t at distance, but that's not the point. For anyone considering making one of these, it's a lot of fun to shoot, and it's now my new favorite bush gun... and we're not roughing it too bad ;)

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That's a beauty :D

I support pistol grips, however, being wooden & double barreled it must be a wrist tweaker!
 
Put a pistol grip on my old defender. Best bet was to put my right hand and pistol grip on my hip. Accuracy was minute of 5 gal pail at 30 feet with buckshot.

This project was cool, and i will do the same thing if i come across a beater 12 SXS for the cheap. But at the end of the day, with my defender, i was glad to put the original buttstock back on.
 
haha49 said:
ht tp://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/c-46/page-42.html

(b) a firearm that is adapted from a rifle or shotgun, whether by sawing, cutting or any other alteration, and that, as so adapted,

(i) is less than 660 mm in length, or


(ii) is 660 mm or greater in length and has a barrel less than 457 mm in length,
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Read closely. His firearm is legal.

457mm = 17.99" barrel length
660mm = 25.99" over all firearm length

Anything shorter is prohibited.
His is 27" over all with a 18.5" barrel. Both measurements are in the clear. If he cut the barrel 1" shorter it would be illegal.

Regarding the swap of barrels. You can swap the barrel of a firearm for a longer one and make it legal in Canada. Example, Glock 26 is prohibited due to barrel length. However, you can buy them with a Lone Wolf barrel from Questar making them legal.
 
haha49 said:
ht tp://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/c-46/page-42.html

There is the page for the law read through it make sure you understand it before cutting anything then do what you want. To get under the length it has to be made that way. Now the big question is if you got a shotgun that falls under that and was made that way and put a longer stock on it wouldn't that be illegal as well since it's under the length. The laws are kind of like landmines you got to watch were you step.

“prohibited firearm” means

(a) a handgun that

(i) has a barrel equal to or less than 105 mm in length, or


(ii) is designed or adapted to discharge a 25 or 32 calibre cartridge,


but does not include any such handgun that is prescribed, where the handgun is for use in international sporting competitions governed by the rules of the International Shooting Union,


(b) a firearm that is adapted from a rifle or shotgun, whether by sawing, cutting or any other alteration, and that, as so adapted,

(i) is less than 660 mm in length, or


(ii) is 660 mm or greater in length and has a barrel less than 457 mm in length,



(c) an automatic firearm, whether or not it has been altered to discharge only one projectile with one pressure of the trigger, or


(d) any firearm that is prescribed to be a prohibited firearm
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How about we go real gentle on you and sum it up at this.
mmattockx knows what he is talking about, and he is correct!
You on the other hand seem a little confused.
 
did something very similar for a buddy a year ago . he phoned the cfc and it was perfectly kosher .

definitely need to use 2 hands , and it isn't the kind of thing you spend a afternoon shooting clays with ...... more like just making sure it works properly , then the next time it is fired is when it is rammed down a bears throat and your so full of adrenalin you don't notice the recoil .
 
farmer47 said:
having fired a full stocked gun but holding it with two hands and no shoulder contact i can tell you that opening lever is going to tear up your hand .try it before you cut the stock and see if it is what you really want .
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You must devise a system to stop the lever hitting your hand. I had shot a home chop with a pistol grip in16ga many moons ago and the lever stabbed the webbing of the hand(between thumb and index finger), not cool.:mad:
 
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