Say if you don't have a reloading die for a caliber ...

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Say if you don't have a reloading die for a caliber and you just want to size down the neck again. How would you go about that?

So far using a block of wood has not worked. :(

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Your question is weird. I strongly suggest just going out and buying the die. The consequences of being cheap or lazy in this hobby are extreme....
 
If I was to tell you there are no commercially or otherwise avalible dies would that help when giving ideas?

Trying to neck down this case for the first 3/8" to fit a 40 caliber bullet but I've been unable to do it.

40 Nut Carbine:
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It would. Perhaps try a 40\10mm set or even 10mm mag dies?? I am not up on the cartridge dimensions of the .40 NC but it may work. You won't be able to size the entire case but it is all the advice I have. I don't see anyway to size it properly without a die. Maybe some of the old timers have some tricks?
 
Trying to resize brass requires precise measurements. Without knowing what that case actually is it is impossible to tell how much you want to neck it down.

What you want to do is make the brass smaller & wood won't do that.
I would say that you need a proper tool designed for what you need to do.
 
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It would. Perhaps try a 40\10mm set? I am not up on the cartridge dimensions of the .40 NC but it may work. You won't be able to size the entire case but it is all the advice I have.
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Its a good thought, Its a cut down 308Win case, cut down to 1.57" long and I've been trying to make it work to hold a .400" blank I have so far its been unsuccessful.

I think I'd have to "neck" turn it before sizing it down if I was to use a 40cal or 10mm die set. Due to the pistol rounds having a much thinner case wall. :confused:

And yes this is me experimenting with the thought of a 40 caliber round. I have had a couple more ideas on a good 40 caliber round. But since I had a spare 308Win case I decided to use it as a base for a model.

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I think I'd have to "neck" turn it before sizing it down if I was to use a 40cal or 10mm die set. Due to the pistol rounds having a much thinner case wall. :confused:



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I was thinking that as well, honestly though that is getting out my know-how though. I am a huge fan of all things 10mm. Let me know how it turns out eh?
 
My last 2 "wild cats" ended up already being made I just didn't know about them, one very similar to a 40 Whelen (40 SRLH) and another similar to the 416 WSM (416 Canuck) and as such I kinda lost enthusiasm about them. So I figured no one has the market cornered on such a long straight walled 40caliber round. And I hope I am right this time. :redface:

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As a possible idea, I used to have a 400 Corbon which is a 45ACP necked down to .40 cal.

I made cases by making them from 45 cases which I think are pretty close to 308 brass.
I also bought commercial 400 Corbon cases since 45acp's are thinner & cannot hold much pressure.
 
"...a cut down 308Win case..." Was used to make the .44 Auto-Mag cartridge. The case was 1.30" long and definitely thinned.
"...a .400" blank..." A .400" blank what?
If you're going to play with making cartridges, you need the proper tools. Wood will never do it.
 
Let me get this straight, do you at this point have a chamber to fit this to or is this project at the I want to see what it would look like stage?
 
Lots of .40 cal. carts. already, the 40/50 Sharps, 40/65 Win. come to mind, these are smaller rifle cals. from the Bp era. Lots of .40 cal. handgun cartridges as well old and new, like the 38/40.
 
There are many modern commercial and wildcat .40 cartridges. Out of all of them the little Auto is my favourite. I would love to own a nice double rifle in .405 Win though.
 
Sounds like you're trying to reinvent the .401 Win. self loader, all be it a little longer.
A copy of "Cartridges of the world" would be handy if you don't have one already. Shows a lot of like minded thinking and might save you some R&D.
 
Just a thought, but have you talked to any machinists or tool makers? They might be able to make a die for you, or modify one that is close to the right size. Might be a little hard on the wallet, but you never know. I worked with a guy in alberta that made all kinds of parts and pieces for his remote control planes and boats, unreal what he could do with a lathe. Actually, that may be a good place to start. Any good hobby store would probably know of a machine shop that specializes in small parts production.
 
I must admit that I still am not sure what you are trying to build, and why. But never lacking ideas on my own, here is my own twist on your project. In a 20 inch bbl this will push a 200gn bullet 2700 fps, or at least that what the estimates are. Derived from a 300WSM it will take a fair bit of trimming and case forming. And I am sure it already exits but I would love to hear from you guys. When I modelled this with a cut down .308 there was essentially no neck at all, just a small bump, that is why I went for the 300 WSM

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