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Just came into possession of one of those old Schmidt Reuban straight pull bolt action rifles. I understand they were chambered for 7x55 Sweede but this one has a barrel marked 30 30 Winchester. Anybody have any information on this rifle as to the new calibre and the interest in them. Any value in it?
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canuckiron said:
Just came into possession of one of those old Schmidt Reuban straight pull bolt action rifles. I understand they were chambered for 7x55 Sweede but this one has a barrel marked 30 30 Winchester. Anybody have any information on this rifle as to the new calibre and the interest in them. Any value in it?
Thanks
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Schmidt-Rubin: Rudolf Schmidt the creator of the straight pull bolt and Eduard Rubin the maker of the Swiss 7,5x55 Cartridge.
The rifles were made to use the 7,5x53 GP1890, 7,5X53GP1923 and the GP 7,5X55 GP 1911 ammos. Switzerland is not Sweden. About the caliber 30-30 in the USA some dealers or gunsmoth modified the Swiss Rifles to use a more common caliber than the swiss one.
Will be interesting to see some pictures to know which model was "upgraded" with the new caliber.

regards
 
Yeknow, I really don't understand the total lack of respect on these forums anymore, he miss spoke(or typed), don't have too be a dink about it and talk down like he's an idiot, a simple "its 7.5 swiss, not sweede" is more then enough, you don't need too swing your e-#####, and try and belittle someone, take a que from smellie, and help the guy out instead of treating him like a moron. Geez were all enthusiasts take er easy.
 
The rifle selected for conversion to the .30-30 cartridge generally was the old 1889 model.

I have had a couple of these and they seem to have been converted in different ways. The one I have at the present time was converted by having the barrel removed, a chamber sleeve inserted and then the barrel screwed back on.

Th 7.5x55 Swiss cartridge is fairly big and, with modern powders, it would be more than possible to wreck an '89 with hefty loads. That said, there are no loads recommended for the smaller .30-30 which will blow the massive '89 action.

The rifles have 3-groove barrels which are made of Bohler steel, at that time among the finest steels in the world.

The rifles are reliable, rugged, lightweight, FAST, accurate AND you can load for them with pointed bullets. If you want to scope one, friend DIOPTER (on this forum) has special mounts for them which screw onto the outside of the rifle but still are good and solid, which is what you need. These mounts do NOT require drilling holes in the rifle and the same mount may be used for any of the several models of Schmitt-Rubin rifle!

What's not to like?

Sounds like you have a Toy!
 
smellie said:
These mounts do NOT require drilling holes in the rifle and the same mount may be used for any of the several models of Schmitt-Rubin rifle!
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Sir, notwithstanding that I'm a total POS for my previous post, for which I have apologised [guess the humour didn't come out, huh?], you're totally correct to note that the Swiss Products clamp-on scope mount fits a number of other Schmidt-Rubin-designed firearms.

Many folks think that the K31 is also a Schmidt-Rubin, and might try to fit this mount on one of them. The K31 clamp-on mount is quite different in the method of attachment - the two are not interchangeable.

tac
 
fat tony said:
for the K31 there is even a left hand toggle conversion apparatus available. Don't know if they can be used with the 1889 - probably not.
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Nossir, they are not interchangeable, but work is in progress, we are told. The Swiss Products version for the K31 works a treat, and if anything, is slightly easier to operate than the original right-hand version due to an extra mechanical link. It is also around half or less the price of the Swiss-made product by Burgin.

tac
 
Thanks for all the comments including the correction I never got to read! :) Not sure how this one was done. I wll post some pics in the next couple of days. The stock has been "sporterized" and the sights that are on there seem crude. The rear V notch is about 1/4" wide at the top. Pics to follow.
 
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Have a Gunsmith take a look at your rifle to confirm the calibre. Some of these Schmidt Rubin rifles were modified to shoot the 30-30 Winchester cartridge by Globe Firearms, back about the 1970s. If your rifle is marked "30-30", then it is likely that your rifle is one of these conversions.

DO NOT attempt to fire the more modern GP-11 Swiss 7.5x55 ammunition in the older 1889 Schmidt Rubin rifles. It is too powerful for the action, and was designed for the 96/11, G-11, K-11 and the K-31 rifles.

It does help, when asking for information on a rifle or anything, to give the most information you can, and include pictures. Since there was five major variations of the Swiss rifles of this period, without more details, an accurate answer can not be made.

Also, the Internet can be your friend in a lot of cases. If you "Google" the name "Schmidt Rubin", you can find a lot of information available.
 
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RussiaBerdan said:
In Italy there is already a man that makes scope mounts for Military Surplus rifles of any kind and model: If you are interested this is the web site

http://www.mc15371.com/english/

regards
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I happened across this fellow's website quite a while back - his mounts look very solid but the one for the SMLE looks skyhigh - on the upside you could mount something with an immense objective lens!
 
I had one of those Globe 30-30 rifles but I never fired it as it had no magazine, and the stock and sights were buggered.

I gave the barreled action to a gunsmith for the barrel and kept the bolt and recently traded t to a guy for a box of 30-06 cartridges.
 
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