I know what a milldot is. And a boone and crockett. ( well i know what they look like) Other then that there seems to be a million of them. How do i know whats suited for me. I want to start shooting some recreational long range stuff at my local range. What reticle should i look for?
School me on Reticles
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ultimate_monkey
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Do you want to shoot tiny little groups ? - SFP, and a simple fine cross hair or target dot would be the choice .
Do you want to shoot more of a "tactical " style based off speed and varying distance? When a hit is a hit and that's all that counts ?? Then you will have a better time with a -FFP mil dot or h59 style retical when you can use pure holds for wind and distance
Bit more infor on what type of long range you want to do will get a more specific answer
Do you want to shoot more of a "tactical " style based off speed and varying distance? When a hit is a hit and that's all that counts ?? Then you will have a better time with a -FFP mil dot or h59 style retical when you can use pure holds for wind and distance
Bit more infor on what type of long range you want to do will get a more specific answer
ultimate_monkey
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well then, as i mentioned before, a second focal plane with a simple fine cross hair or target dot will give you the lease amount of "clutter" in the scope view, and when zoomed in, being SFP willt cover the least amount of the target as possible. the down side to this, is there is no reference marks and you will need to dial both wind and elevation into the scope.
You could go with a SFP with a mil or MOA based retical, the down side to this is that the measurements are only true at a certain power, usually 10x or MAX. out side of that they hold no true value, you can work it out with some patience, but unless you have that zoom set PERFECTLY each time, your screwed as the reading wont be correct. but that being said, if you shooting timy groups at long range chances are you will be on max zoom almost all the time, unless mirage starts to give you problems
You could go with a SFP with a mil or MOA based retical, the down side to this is that the measurements are only true at a certain power, usually 10x or MAX. out side of that they hold no true value, you can work it out with some patience, but unless you have that zoom set PERFECTLY each time, your screwed as the reading wont be correct. but that being said, if you shooting timy groups at long range chances are you will be on max zoom almost all the time, unless mirage starts to give you problems
You using it for hunting? You using it in low light? Do you want to turn turrets to shoot longer ranges or use a reticle that offers multiple yardage aim points? Do you need quick target acquisition? Do you need a really precise point of aim?
I dont know wtf i want, why i got some reading to do lol.
Kind of critical to decide what rifle it's going on and what you will be using that rifle for before even considering reticle type. There is some good reading out there though on what certain reticles are best suited to.
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Go to your LGS and try out a bunch of them. That is what I did. I concluded that I do not like standard crosshairs as my eye tends to "wonder". I can't explain it better than that. For some reason my eyes like the German #1, #4, and post and wire... (I think that's the name)
this one
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ultimate_monkey
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haha that COULD be alot of reading. if you figure out exactly what you want to do with the scope, it will cut out alot of unneeded reading and saves alot of headaches
for example...
I would call my self a long range steel / rock basher. to me a hit is a hit good enough, ill shoot 100-as far as i can saftly shoot at steel plates. either set up at knowen distance (aka where iv shot before) or just randomly placed. i use my retical for - rangeing, hold overs, and wind holds.. with my given load, and my retical of choice, the h59, any thing inside of 1150 yards, i can shoot at with useing only hold overs on my recital at MAX zoom, if i zoom out being a FFP, more of the retical is showen and i can shoot out even further with out having to touch my turrets .
this is my retcial of choice ...
now if i were to shoot at a known distances, at a known size targets, all the time, this retical would be useless and cluttered
Do you want to shoot the tiniest groups on targets at known ranges? Get a target scope like those that benchrest shooters use.
Do you want to shoot potentially somewhat larger groups, but put rounds on POA at unknown longer ranges? Get a mil-dot - or better yet a milliradian hash-marked reticle, and learn how to use it. I prefer FFP, but that's a whole different argument. I do strongly recommend that your reticle and turret adjustments match; Mil/Mil, MOA/MOA.
Do you want to put rounds in a big-game killzone (larger target yet than the two previous examples) or on steel gongs only, without making adjustments to your scope (but possibly with some fudging of holdovers for in-between distances)? Get a BDC (bullet drop compensating) reticle such as the Boone & Crockett from Leupold, Rapid-Z from Zeiss, DOA from Bushnell, etc etc.
Your decision has a lot to do with just what kind of ranges you're contemplating, and just how small your perceived target is. Every general type of reticle exists for a reason.
Do you want to shoot potentially somewhat larger groups, but put rounds on POA at unknown longer ranges? Get a mil-dot - or better yet a milliradian hash-marked reticle, and learn how to use it. I prefer FFP, but that's a whole different argument. I do strongly recommend that your reticle and turret adjustments match; Mil/Mil, MOA/MOA.
Do you want to put rounds in a big-game killzone (larger target yet than the two previous examples) or on steel gongs only, without making adjustments to your scope (but possibly with some fudging of holdovers for in-between distances)? Get a BDC (bullet drop compensating) reticle such as the Boone & Crockett from Leupold, Rapid-Z from Zeiss, DOA from Bushnell, etc etc.
Your decision has a lot to do with just what kind of ranges you're contemplating, and just how small your perceived target is. Every general type of reticle exists for a reason.
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haha that COULD be alot of reading. if you figure out exactly what you want to do with the scope, it will cut out alot of unneeded reading and saves alot of headaches
for example...
I would call my self a long range steel / rock basher. to me a hit is a hit good enough, ill shoot 100-as far as i can saftly shoot at steel plates. either set up at knowen distance (aka where iv shot before) or just randomly placed. i use my retical for - rangeing, hold overs, and wind holds.. with my given load, and my retical of choice, the h59, any thing inside of 1150 yards, i can shoot at with useing only hold overs on my recital at MAX zoom, if i zoom out being a FFP, more of the retical is showen and i can shoot out even further with out having to touch my turrets .
this is my retcial of choice ...
now if i were to shoot at a known distances, at a known size targets, all the time, this retical would be useless and cluttered
I want to zero the scope at 100 or 200 yards and then not mess with it again. IE use the reticile to account for longer distances. Why that boone and crocket was apealing to me. Im not planning on being an F class shooter or anything. Just some recreation stuff at the range, and possibly some hunting.
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BeaverMeat
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Ya i got outdoor essentials and thats it lol.
The place where you got that avatar. I want to see more.
Tons of reticles out there including many proprietary ones which could fill out several pages here.. From hunting to tactical etc.. Duplex, BDC are the most common followed by German #4 for low light in my experience. THen there are the heavy or thin versions of reticles, etched reticles with details such as windage and drop compensation.
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I've got a FFP Milrad and a SFP Milrad you could check out in the new year if you like. Actually, I have a BDC reticle on my Elcan too... you could get a rough comparison of the three types I mentioned that way.
I used to really like the B&C reticle from Leupold. Had 2 or 3 of them on different rifles, and once you understand how they work, they work very well. Same would go for the Zeiss and others I'd imagine. I've since changed my method on hunting rifles and prefer a simpler reticle for those.
Got home last night to a frozen waterline, so all other things are on hold at this point. And im at work today so i can try to fix it, great timing as usual.
