soldier506
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Hi, was wondering if anyone currently makes a new break top open replica of the s&w scofield revolver ? I have always had a soft spot for the old western syle guns.
scofield revolvers
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Here's a webpage with all sorts of information about the Schofield model S&W and the modern-made repros which are available - (Uberti is the only current manufacturer, I believe. The one formerly produced by Armi San Marco was apparently the more authentically proportioned of the two Italian repros, and was chambered in the original .45 Schofield. S&W were putting out a high-priced version of their own for a short while, but discontinued it I understand ...)
http://www.sam-hane.com/sass/schofield/
http://www.sam-hane.com/sass/schofield/
I have one of the modern replicas in 45 Colt, a fun gun. I guess the 38 version would be better for competition, but really, the hole in the end of the barrel is too small. - dan
Aahhh, a man after my own heart! I'm also one of the crowd who hold firmly to the belief that any caliber less than .45 seems a bit "wimpy"....
(Only calibers I shoot regularly anymore are .45 Colt, .45-70, .455 Webley and the .476 Enfield variant thereof, .577/450 Martini-Henry, .577 Snider and .... soon to take an active role in that lineup once I finally get some bullets cast .... .45-75 in my recently acquired Model 1876 NWMP Carbine repro ....)
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S&W were originaly approached to remake the Schofield.
Their reply: we no longer have the drawings, it would cost too much to make, there would be no demand.
After Uberti sold them by the truckload, S&W said, well, maybe it would be a good idea....
Of course by then Uberti's were EVERYWHERE.
I often wonder where S&W, like Colt, got the idea of charging an exhorbitant price for a new/old revolver while their standard production models cost less.
I have a pair of Uberti Schofields as I don't care to pay an inflated price for a name on the barrel. With modern CNC machinery, either gun should not cost more than the rest of the line.
Their reply: we no longer have the drawings, it would cost too much to make, there would be no demand.
After Uberti sold them by the truckload, S&W said, well, maybe it would be a good idea....
Of course by then Uberti's were EVERYWHERE.
I often wonder where S&W, like Colt, got the idea of charging an exhorbitant price for a new/old revolver while their standard production models cost less.
I have a pair of Uberti Schofields as I don't care to pay an inflated price for a name on the barrel. With modern CNC machinery, either gun should not cost more than the rest of the line.
Unfortunately, this is classical example what happens when non-shooters are (were) in charge of firearm manufacturing companies (same applies for other products). The twisted logic is result of twisted thinking that shooters are bunch of maniacs that will mortgage house, sell the car or take the big loan from bank in order to get firearm they want. There are always few that will do that, but few are not the market. On the end, everybody is loosing; from manufacturers to customers. So, I would advise shareholders to be aware of slick looking and smooth talking managers that are making fabulous impressions with flashy Power Point presentations. If you are shareholder in firearm company, make sure that key decision makers are avid shooters; no substitute for in-depth knowledge.
soldier506
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Would like to have a .357 cal version . Looks like no luck.
Not really - it appears to be more like the earlier S&W Model No. 3 revolver top-break revolver design - which Uberti also makes. (Keep in mind that Beretta and Uberti are now part of the same company, so the 'Laramie' is likely Uberti-built, with the Beretta name on it.)
The Schofield Model incorporated modifications to the No. 3 design, devised by Major George W. Schofield of the U.S. Army with a view to making it a more practical cavalry sidearm, including a revised top latch system of the stirrup type (somewhat similar to that used on many British top-break revolvers) which was mounted on the frame, rather than the barrelstrap-mounted latch of the No. 3 revolver, permitting the latch to be opened by the action of only one hand, with thumb pressure, rather than requiring both hands.
The Schofield Model incorporated modifications to the No. 3 design, devised by Major George W. Schofield of the U.S. Army with a view to making it a more practical cavalry sidearm, including a revised top latch system of the stirrup type (somewhat similar to that used on many British top-break revolvers) which was mounted on the frame, rather than the barrelstrap-mounted latch of the No. 3 revolver, permitting the latch to be opened by the action of only one hand, with thumb pressure, rather than requiring both hands.
It has a modern "transfer bar" mechanism, enabling the hammer to be let down on a loaded round. So it's sort of a modern "improved" version. I'd love one (in .45 Colt) but at >$1,000 USD I'll have to wait a while I'm afraid.
Stuart
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I have two Schofields and a Russian model I use for CAS, they are the bomb and I plan to use them until they fall apart.....or I do.
Lee Enfield
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S&W Model 3 semi chronologically:
Model 3 "American" ~ 3 models
"Schofield" ~ 2 models (based on the "American" frame)
"Russian" ~ 3 models (1st one based on a 3rd model American)
"New Model" ~ 2 models (based on 3rd model Russian)
"D/A Model 3" ~ 3 models (utilizing some "New Model" componants)
NOTE* American, Schofield & Russian production overlapped
The first successful American large bore cartridge revolver was the S&W Model 3 "American" c.1869.
The US Army purchased a small number for testing c.1870, however, the gun was an "also ran" against the Colt SAA adopted as the 1873.
The Schofield is an improved Model 3 American. Maj Schofield (mainly) improved the barrel latch, cylinder retainer & extractor systems which were in use on the American. I believe the consencious to be that S&W recognized the Schofield patented changes as being superior to their own, but they refused to pay royalties to Schofield (and his heirs), saddling the Russians & New Models with the chintzy barrel, hammer interlocking latching system.
The Russians also forced major changes to the S&W Mod 3 arm and cartridge which were utilized in all later production and influenced the (much later) .44 Spec & Mag.
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