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Izzi115

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Hey everybody,


I need some advise from experienced hunters and ranged shooters. I run a mini 14 and have been scoring pretty consistent 4moa grouping with a red dot that has a 3moa dot. I'm considering purchasing a new scope to test the ability of the rifle, but I need reliability. Is a variable zoom scope less reliable in the long run than a fixed zoom scope, of the same make of course. Seems to make sense to me that more moving parts reduces reliability just like a rifle but wanted some feed back.

Thanks,
Izzi
 
Minis are hard on optics, you could go two routes.
1. Buy an expensive quality scope
2. Buy a bushnell trophy from Canadian tire with a lifetime in store replacement warrantee
 
Turkinator said:
Minis are hard on optics, you could go two routes.
1. Buy an expensive quality scope
2. Buy a bushnell trophy from Canadian tire with a lifetime in store replacement warrantee
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Ha, that's some solid advise bud.

I was thinking of a vortex, but would definatly take feedback. Why are minis so hard on optics, cycling method? I've found the recoil to be quite tame, similar to my brothers ar. Though he has a 8.5inch barrel on it so that might be why.
 
Variable power scopes are just as reliable as fixed power, just get a good one, and avoid all the NC Star, and other cheap junk out there.
 
Izzi115 said:
Ha, that's some solid advise bud.

I was thinking of a vortex, but would definatly take feedback. Why are minis so hard on optics, cycling method? I've found the recoil to be quite tame, similar to my brothers ar. Though he has a 8.5inch barrel on it so that might be why.
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I think the recoil is tame for the same reason its hard on optics. Correct me if Im wrong but the cycling of the hefty Oprod, bolt and springs not only cancels out a lot of felt recoil but also is as bad as an airgun on a cheap scope. The Garand style action puts a lot of strain on a scope when that bolt slams shut after cycling. Minis cycle violently which makes them reliable but they also sling brass a country mile.
 
Jmo

But you may find that a scope will not help much on the accuracy of a mini 14. They are inherently inaccurate.

Good luck

Quality scopes would be Swarovski , Zeiss, Nightforce. And many others
 
For the Mini, you may want to consider a shotgun scope. Some guys even rotate the scope so that the windage turret is on the top and the elevation turret is on the port side. This prevents ejected spent cartridges from nicking the windage turret.
 
pr connection said:
Jmo

But you may find that a scope will not help much on the accuracy of a mini 14. They are inherently inaccurate.

Good luck

Quality scopes would be Swarovski , Zeiss, Nightforce. And many others
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Not true
The 180 series was inherently inaccurate, the newer 581 series are accurate little semi's very much worth scoping.
300Spartans said:
For the Mini, you may want to consider a shotgun scope. Some guys even rotate the scope so that the windage turret is on the top and the elevation turret is on the port side. This prevents ejected spent cartridges from nicking the windage turret.
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The ejection on the mini can be calmed by either getting a smaller gas bushing or driving a 3/32" roll pin into the stock gas bushing and installing a wilson 1911 buffer. Most newer ranch rifles do not have upward ejection that ive seen but the tacticals do. It has something to do with the difference in placement of the ejector on the bolt on either model ive read.
 
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Turkinator said:
Not true
The 180 series was inherently inaccurate, the newer 581 series are accurate little semi's very much worth scoping.

The ejection on the mini can be calmed by either getting a smaller gas bushing or driving a 3/32" roll pin into the stock gas bushing and installing a wilson 1911 buffer. Most newer ranch rifles do not have upward ejection that ive seen but the tacticals do. It has something to do with the difference in placement of the ejector on the bolt on either model ive read.
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I must of had an old model becuase a four inch group at 100 yards was the best it could get ....... With a scope. I good friend of mine really worked at making his more accurate. The best he could get is a 3 inch group at 100. My sako 85 .308 shoot 1/2 minute consistently at 100. Not sure what the new ones are like but I hope better then my experience.
 
pr connection said:
I must of had an old model becuase a four inch group at 100 yards was the best it could get ....... With a scope. I good friend of mine really worked at making his more accurate. The best he could get is a 3 inch group at 100. My sako 85 .308 shoot 1/2 minute consistently at 100. Not sure what the new ones are like but I hope better then my experience.
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It's really like comparing apples and oranges putting the mini against a sako 85 in an accuracy contest. Two different rifles, over a $1000 apart, one fires a 5.56mm and the other a .308
The mini was and has always been a rough service rifle, it goes bang every time with an acceptable level of accuracy despite how hard you abuse it.
 
All things being equal, a fixed power scope will always be inherently more durable than a variable period. However for 2x or 3x times the money, there are variables that will be as reliable but you pay for it.
 
300Spartans said:
For the Mini, you may want to consider a shotgun scope. Some guys even rotate the scope so that the windage turret is on the top and the elevation turret is on the port side. This prevents ejected spent cartridges from nicking the windage turret.
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That is very good advice for both mini's and m14 type rifles, especially with scopes with large turrets like the Bushnell elite 10x scope, which is a popular less expensive scope with these rifles, since it stands up to recoil forces quite well
 
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