I’m under the impression that a centre fire scope CAN be used on a 22. Rim fire .. But a Rimfire scope CANNOT be used on a centre fire rifle.. ( due to parralax) I’m sitting a great Bushnell 10x40 , and I’m thinking it would be awesome on my Cz 452. Any thoughts? Good/bad idea?
Scope choices for a CZ452..
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Huh? You can adjust the parallax on any scope by rotating the front lens of the scope. FixedO rifle scopes are (typically) set to 100,Rimfire usually 50. The real concern is if they are also rated for the increased recoil and shock.
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I think that you might be close - is often times a parallax issue that many rimfire shooters do not recognize. But if your 10x40 has AO, is about a non-issue for you. My experience with older rimfire scopes was their very minimal eye relief - would cut you up, if used on a rifle with any amount of recoil - but maybe newer ones have similar eye relief to centre fire scopes??
To check any scope for parallax sighting error - regardless if rimfire or centerfire on the label - set up on sandbags or something very stable - sight at aiming point - now move your head/eye side to side or up/down - without the rifle / scope moving at all - and watch if cross hair moves on the aiming spot - if it does, that is parallax sighting error - if it does not move, is not an issue for you at that range. So far as I know, the optics within a scope can be adjusted to be parralax free at only one particular range - likely needs to be re-adjusted for a different distance. So most of the time, we settle for "good enough", but I suspect very precise shooters might want better than that. I have a Leupold Freedom 2-7 rimfire scope - booklet says is set to be parallax free at 60 yards - at 20 (?) yards, by seeing some black on one side, then to some black on other side - I can move those cross hairs about two inches versus the aiming point. I suppose if you grasp and hold the rifle perfectly identically each time, there is no parallax sighting error to deal with.
To check any scope for parallax sighting error - regardless if rimfire or centerfire on the label - set up on sandbags or something very stable - sight at aiming point - now move your head/eye side to side or up/down - without the rifle / scope moving at all - and watch if cross hair moves on the aiming spot - if it does, that is parallax sighting error - if it does not move, is not an issue for you at that range. So far as I know, the optics within a scope can be adjusted to be parralax free at only one particular range - likely needs to be re-adjusted for a different distance. So most of the time, we settle for "good enough", but I suspect very precise shooters might want better than that. I have a Leupold Freedom 2-7 rimfire scope - booklet says is set to be parallax free at 60 yards - at 20 (?) yards, by seeing some black on one side, then to some black on other side - I can move those cross hairs about two inches versus the aiming point. I suppose if you grasp and hold the rifle perfectly identically each time, there is no parallax sighting error to deal with.
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Assuming this is like an 'Elite 10 x 40', it prob has NO parallax adjustment so it will only be 'really accurate' at prob 100 yards. That is the most likely parallax setting for Centrefire scopes. It depends on what you want to do - target shooting at anything but 100 will be 'off a bit'. Hunting s/b OK unless you're trying squirrel head shots, cause at 20 to 50 it might be off enough to cause a miss.
Rimfire scopes mainly aren't built for heavier recoil, tho 'majors' like Leupold, Burris, etc, might work OK.
I run 6-24x50 FFP-SF "Centerfire-scopes" on 2 of my 22s, a Sav B22 and a CZ-455. These scopes are infinitely adjustable parallax and you can generally tell when 'correct para' when the image is 'in focus'. Critical to adjust the focus of the reticle First, also.
I'd suggest 1) Mount your scope and see how it looks and how well you can shoot at whatever distance and target you intend. 2) Read threads about scope selection and consider getting an Adjustable parallax scope (side focus is better and more convenient) suitable to your shooting.
Good Luck
Rimfire scopes mainly aren't built for heavier recoil, tho 'majors' like Leupold, Burris, etc, might work OK.
I run 6-24x50 FFP-SF "Centerfire-scopes" on 2 of my 22s, a Sav B22 and a CZ-455. These scopes are infinitely adjustable parallax and you can generally tell when 'correct para' when the image is 'in focus'. Critical to adjust the focus of the reticle First, also.
I'd suggest 1) Mount your scope and see how it looks and how well you can shoot at whatever distance and target you intend. 2) Read threads about scope selection and consider getting an Adjustable parallax scope (side focus is better and more convenient) suitable to your shooting.
Good Luck
I was in the same spot this spring with a CZ 455. I use my 22's for plinking and even some longer range plinking (80- 100 yards). I put a VX freedom 3-9x40 on my .22. I know its not a rimfire specific scope but I have had no issues with plinking, shooting targets, grouse, gophers etc. There is also this added benefit that you could put that scope on a hunting rifle and have no issues, maybe I wouldn't put it on a 300 win mag but its not a rimfire specific scope. If you are not competition shooting and trying to put bullets in the same hole then I don't believe you need the paralax adjustment.
Bad idea. I had one of those 10x40 fixed bushnells with no AO that the tactical/long range guys love. I promptly sold it. It was a useless scope for anything else, either rimfire or centerfire hunting rifle. It is a very poor choice for a rimfire, as the one i had was only a 100 yard and plus scope with an unfocussable image at my normal shooting distances.
The Centerfire vs rimfire choice is more about suitability of features for the intended purpose: cross hair thickness, shooting/focal range, durability, cost, etc.
You can use whatever works for you. For example, a centerfire 4-12 non AO scope works just fine on a rimfire if left at 4x and used at closer ranges. But the rimfire scope version will allow you to zoom right in on a 50 yard target and see your bullet holes. And there is no durability issue if you use a rimfire scope on centerfire rifle.
You may wish to get youtube's gunblue 490's take on scopes.
The Centerfire vs rimfire choice is more about suitability of features for the intended purpose: cross hair thickness, shooting/focal range, durability, cost, etc.
You can use whatever works for you. For example, a centerfire 4-12 non AO scope works just fine on a rimfire if left at 4x and used at closer ranges. But the rimfire scope version will allow you to zoom right in on a 50 yard target and see your bullet holes. And there is no durability issue if you use a rimfire scope on centerfire rifle.
You may wish to get youtube's gunblue 490's take on scopes.
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Good god, that video is a lot of rambling and 12 minutes of your life you will not get back.
Spoiler alert: 1) You get what you pay for, and 2) quality and features cost money.
OP: there are better scopes to strap onto your 457, and like many here, I think the fixed 10x is a poor choice for this rifle.
A decent low power variable up to anywhere from a 3-9, 2.5-10x, 1-6 or there abouts would be good, unless you are looking to shoot longer than 200m
Spoiler alert: 1) You get what you pay for, and 2) quality and features cost money.
OP: there are better scopes to strap onto your 457, and like many here, I think the fixed 10x is a poor choice for this rifle.
A decent low power variable up to anywhere from a 3-9, 2.5-10x, 1-6 or there abouts would be good, unless you are looking to shoot longer than 200m
Good gosh, that ol' far* reminds me of an 'ancient Uncle' who endlessly pontificated on whatever BS was on his mind. I watched about 30-secs.
Anyway, as I said it would be best to get a higher power variable mag AO scope. That's if he needs that accuracy. I have a vintage Weaver D4 (TX) on one of my 22s and it's fine for cans at 50 or squirrels at 20, but NOT for MOA at any distance over 20. It all depends on what the OP is planning to do. And Irons at 50 is also challenging to develop skills.
Anyway, as I said it would be best to get a higher power variable mag AO scope. That's if he needs that accuracy. I have a vintage Weaver D4 (TX) on one of my 22s and it's fine for cans at 50 or squirrels at 20, but NOT for MOA at any distance over 20. It all depends on what the OP is planning to do. And Irons at 50 is also challenging to develop skills.
My idea of have similar scopes on two CZ455's eventually fell apart.
The Burris 4.5-14 x 42 was fine for general target shooting to 100 yards but then the bite from higher levels of competition took hold.
Both variables and fixed with a low power of 6 on a 6-24 then 4.5 - 30, 8-32, 36 times 2 and a 45 competition.
The 6 - 24's would be my choice for gophers if the chance comes around again.
The Burris 4.5-14 x 42 was fine for general target shooting to 100 yards but then the bite from higher levels of competition took hold.
Both variables and fixed with a low power of 6 on a 6-24 then 4.5 - 30, 8-32, 36 times 2 and a 45 competition.
The 6 - 24's would be my choice for gophers if the chance comes around again.
