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- Cold Lake, Alberta
what are you guys using? what works best? where'd ya get em?
thanks
thanks
scope mounting on sks
- Thread starter silverado7
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- Cold Lake, Alberta
unmodified?..... too late..
i took it out tonight... it shot good ...too good the wife wants one now too! thats a goo thing i guess
but i would like to scope it.
i took it out tonight... it shot good ...too good the wife wants one now too! thats a goo thing i guess
but i would like to scope it.
- Location
- Cold Lake, Alberta
cool... i think i'll get a stock one for the wife
- Location
- Cold Lake, Alberta
hmmmm... god idea! cz 858! i like it.. time to convince the wife!
sooo... cabellas have a sweet set up that come with a 4x scope and mount..BUT they wont ship to Canada... our import laws SUCK !!!!!!!!!
sooo... cabellas have a sweet set up that come with a 4x scope and mount..BUT they wont ship to Canada... our import laws SUCK !!!!!!!!!
- Location
- Cold Lake, Alberta
oh sry... figured our gov. was responsible again!
As for SKS modifications I would disagree with VanIsle - There as some worthwhile mod's to be done as along as you realize that the SKS will never be a sharpshooter rifle and if your SKS is not of museum quality (which mine is not)
First off, the stock must go, I find it too small and the balance needs some work, I went for a synthetic stock - Monte Carlo style from Butler Creek, it definitely improved the handling and balance of the rifle, plus it looks great.
Next , if you are not scoping it, take a look at replacing the icon sights, there are definitively improvements to be had here. The Williams Gun Sight Company make a nice set of fiber-optic front and rear replacements. There are various reviews on the web to take a look at.
As for scoping, now that is getting a bit tricky - I guess it depends and what your expectations are. There are 2 choices to be made, replace the rear sights with a mount from Scout, or look to have a receiver drill and tap mount from Choate, you will also need to look at a shell deflector if the scope hangs over the action. You should stay away from the receiver cover and gas tube mounts as they have proven unreliable over the long term. I have a Scout mount, but finding a decent LER or ERR scope was the biggest issue. I settled on a Bushnell 2-6x32 pistol scope, but also look at Nikon, Burris and Leupold as they make a few LER/ERR scopes.
Also look at some internal modifications, like triggers, bolts, firing pins and spring replacements, there are a tonne of stuff out there because of some US requirement that foreign made rifles now require 12 (it think) US made parts. SKSman web site is a look place to look for those items.
There are always cost vs benefits arguments to be made when modifying a low cost milsurp rifle like the SKS, but for me, mod'ing is half the fun. (if it was not popular, there would not be so many after-market parts for them - right?)
Enjoy your rifle!
/cl
First off, the stock must go, I find it too small and the balance needs some work, I went for a synthetic stock - Monte Carlo style from Butler Creek, it definitely improved the handling and balance of the rifle, plus it looks great.
Next , if you are not scoping it, take a look at replacing the icon sights, there are definitively improvements to be had here. The Williams Gun Sight Company make a nice set of fiber-optic front and rear replacements. There are various reviews on the web to take a look at.
As for scoping, now that is getting a bit tricky - I guess it depends and what your expectations are. There are 2 choices to be made, replace the rear sights with a mount from Scout, or look to have a receiver drill and tap mount from Choate, you will also need to look at a shell deflector if the scope hangs over the action. You should stay away from the receiver cover and gas tube mounts as they have proven unreliable over the long term. I have a Scout mount, but finding a decent LER or ERR scope was the biggest issue. I settled on a Bushnell 2-6x32 pistol scope, but also look at Nikon, Burris and Leupold as they make a few LER/ERR scopes.
Also look at some internal modifications, like triggers, bolts, firing pins and spring replacements, there are a tonne of stuff out there because of some US requirement that foreign made rifles now require 12 (it think) US made parts. SKSman web site is a look place to look for those items.
There are always cost vs benefits arguments to be made when modifying a low cost milsurp rifle like the SKS, but for me, mod'ing is half the fun. (if it was not popular, there would not be so many after-market parts for them - right?)
Enjoy your rifle!
/cl
- Location
- Cold Lake, Alberta
thanks...
the reciever(replacement) type mounts are unreliable huh? those were the ones i was looking at....
the reciever(replacement) type mounts are unreliable huh? those were the ones i was looking at....
Siverado7, I was very tempted to get one also - since they are plentiful and cheap, but after reading some articles in Suplusrife.com web site, it makes sense why they are unreliable (ie - won't hold zero), first off look what holds the receiver cover in place, 2 small rails and and the lock pin, and second, once you realize what the receiver cover does (retains the action spring) with the spring slamming against the back of the cover every time you shot, you can see why there will be issues with the scope. Again, depending on your expectations of accuracy and longevity, this might be a fair trade off for you.
If you can get one on the cheap and are willing to potentially sacrifice a scope, why not give it a whirl? There is nothing wrong with some experimentation, you never know - it might work for you.
/cl
If you can get one on the cheap and are willing to potentially sacrifice a scope, why not give it a whirl? There is nothing wrong with some experimentation, you never know - it might work for you.
/cl
silverado7 said:
Why don't Canadian dealers import them directly from the Cz factory?
Why do they feel the need to buy them from a middle man in the USA?
PM Wolverine and see if they will bring them in.
Warning strong opinion ahead based on experience and wasting allot of money on junk...
Also over the years I have bought three different receiver cover scope mounts for my SKS, and NONE of them work properly.
And IMHO the best scope system you can get for these carbines:
1) That was meant for the rifle design.
2) Designed around the action style.
3) Will not not impede cleaning/maintenance.
4) Form or function ie loading and ejecting.
5) Will hold zero every time, and return to zero every time.
Are the Russian style side rail scope mounts...period.
Google... Kalinka optics.
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- Cold Lake, Alberta
ok ya sold me... no reciever mounts!
i'll look into the rail type. do these need to be 'drilled' into the gun? i can't see where they would just bolt on.
thanks
i'll look into the rail type. do these need to be 'drilled' into the gun? i can't see where they would just bolt on.
thanks
- Location
- Cold Lake, Alberta
this is a quote right from Kalinka optics...
Mounting your SKS by drilling and tapping a plate is the absolute only way to mount an SKS, using a receiver cover is strictly for those who don’t know any better.
enough said on the reciever cover... thanks for opening my eyes to this guys!
Mounting your SKS by drilling and tapping a plate is the absolute only way to mount an SKS, using a receiver cover is strictly for those who don’t know any better.
enough said on the reciever cover... thanks for opening my eyes to this guys!
The other bonus is they are happy to sell to Canada, and every email full of dumb questions I have sent them has been answered within a day or two.
The side plate will need to be installed by a gunsmith (easy stuff), and depending on the style you use you might have to notch out a space for the side mounting plate in the side of your stock, as unlike the AK the side of the SKS receiver is narrower then the wooden stock... BUT there seems to be a new mount available that will fit the SKS without notching out the stock...check with Kalinka on this.
I don't own one yet (buying a new shotgun got in the way), but I have used them on several borrowed firearms at the range, one a Cz858, and ianother on an SKS. With loading via the stripper clips on the SKS you simply slide the lever on the side mount and the scope comes off, load the rifle, then set the mount back on, and it returns to zero.
With a magazine loaded SKS-D or a CZ the mount would only have to come off for storage or transport.
I also plan on getting one of the 400 meter range finder scopes to go with it, the CZ had one and it was nice to be able to simply "hold over" onto the sight chevron that corresponded with the range/height in the scopes view...IMHO it's a brilliant piece of utilitarian battle kit.
The side plate will need to be installed by a gunsmith (easy stuff), and depending on the style you use you might have to notch out a space for the side mounting plate in the side of your stock, as unlike the AK the side of the SKS receiver is narrower then the wooden stock... BUT there seems to be a new mount available that will fit the SKS without notching out the stock...check with Kalinka on this.
I don't own one yet (buying a new shotgun got in the way), but I have used them on several borrowed firearms at the range, one a Cz858, and ianother on an SKS. With loading via the stripper clips on the SKS you simply slide the lever on the side mount and the scope comes off, load the rifle, then set the mount back on, and it returns to zero.
With a magazine loaded SKS-D or a CZ the mount would only have to come off for storage or transport.
I also plan on getting one of the 400 meter range finder scopes to go with it, the CZ had one and it was nice to be able to simply "hold over" onto the sight chevron that corresponded with the range/height in the scopes view...IMHO it's a brilliant piece of utilitarian battle kit.
When I baught that SKS it had a reciever cover mount on it and I got rid of it. If I were you I would look at the choate or kalinka.
BTW I used the $ from the SKS to buy a kalinka mount for my 858. and maybe a couple other toys to come. lol I'm glad to hear your happy with it!
BTW I used the $ from the SKS to buy a kalinka mount for my 858. and maybe a couple other toys to come. lol I'm glad to hear your happy with it!
If the 'drill and tap' is an issue, you can look at replacing the rear sights and install a scout type scope. www scoutscopes.com sells a mount. Marstar carries it in Canada. The pluses are no drill and tap, and you can still use stripper clips. The minuses is getting a decent EER/LER scope (extended eye relief/long eye reflief) at a resonable price.
Take a look at this -
That is pretty much my current SKS setup.
/cl
Take a look at this -
That is pretty much my current SKS setup.
/cl
