With my enfield I can't get a good cheek weld because of the scope height. It's a no4 mark1 on a ati monte carlo stock. Ati scope mount. Bushnell trophy xlt 3x9. I have the lowest rings (weaver grand slam) i could use. So I have to build up the butt stock. I couldn't find much for cheek risers and would I could find I couldn't get in Canada. I need some Ideas on what would work to fix my issue.
scope to high to get good cheek weld on enfield.
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I've seen some guys use bondo on fiber-glass stocks , I'm not sure if it would adhere to a plastic polymer stock , like your ati though . Maybe check out an auto-body supply distributer and see if they carry a product that would work .
I thought of using bondo or jb weld in small layers, it's a good idea, but I was hoping to find something to install quickly and easily. I just painted the stock. lol A friend suggested I make one out of wood. I've even seen people use foam and duct tape.
Military stocks were not designed for use with scopes. I guess you found that out.
I am presuming it is a Lee Enfield you have. In any case, the stock will have little monetary value, so remove the butt stock and go to work on it.
If you live in a condo, this information won't help, but if you have a bit of a workshop, or a friend with such, saw the butt stock flat at where the comb should be and glue a piece of wood on top, to later be cut down to form a comb.
The comb should end up at a height that will just barely allow the bolt to open.
As a side note, a large scope like you have, will be higher on the rifle than a small, fixed power could be mounted. An old 2.5 or 3x power scope could be found on the EE and would be ideal for you.
I am presuming it is a Lee Enfield you have. In any case, the stock will have little monetary value, so remove the butt stock and go to work on it.
If you live in a condo, this information won't help, but if you have a bit of a workshop, or a friend with such, saw the butt stock flat at where the comb should be and glue a piece of wood on top, to later be cut down to form a comb.
The comb should end up at a height that will just barely allow the bolt to open.
As a side note, a large scope like you have, will be higher on the rifle than a small, fixed power could be mounted. An old 2.5 or 3x power scope could be found on the EE and would be ideal for you.
Northman999
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I've got a couple of LE's with velcro-on butt shell holders that also have padding built in to the cheek rest side of the shell holder. They are both working fine for me, and maybe cost me $15 each. Quick and easy and nothing permanent done to my rifles.
gunrunner100
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Another option is to use an M-14 style cheek riser.
I once had available some well seasoned white poplar planks and I made a complete, two piece, stock for a Lee Enfield from the poplar.
The wood had been in the air in a dry place for 15 years and the stock ended up, after an oil finish, amazingly tough and hard, for poplar. I made the comb as high as possible, just to clear the bolt, and it sure made a light, neat rifle, when fitted with a Weaver K2.5 scope.
The wood had been in the air in a dry place for 15 years and the stock ended up, after an oil finish, amazingly tough and hard, for poplar. I made the comb as high as possible, just to clear the bolt, and it sure made a light, neat rifle, when fitted with a Weaver K2.5 scope.
You could make a small cheek-piece out of a dense type of wood ,like beech or maple, that has small pores thats easier to paint and would have a smoother finish .
Drill two holes vertically through the cheek-piece & comb of the stock , then use two sets of nuts ,bolts & lock-washers ( on the inside) to attach it to the stock , not too tight or it might crack the stock or maybe epoxy it and use plain wood screws for additional strength
Drill two holes vertically through the cheek-piece & comb of the stock , then use two sets of nuts ,bolts & lock-washers ( on the inside) to attach it to the stock , not too tight or it might crack the stock or maybe epoxy it and use plain wood screws for additional strength
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Another option is to use an M-14 style cheek riser.
that looks like a karsten cheek piece. It's probably my best option. I'm going to have to look for one.
manbearpig
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personally i would start with a non-permanent modification. you can buy some stock pouches such as the one made by Eagle Industries that allow you to slip some pads of high density foam underneath them to raise the comb.
NEVER use bondo. bondo is porous and absorbs moisture. and for gods sake people please stop repairing your boats and canoes with it
use quality short strand fiberglass, purchased with the appropriate hardener from an autobody supplier -- and not the Canadian Tire crap. prep the surface well, rough it up, thoroughly degrease it, and when mixing the fibreglass make sure not to use too much hardener. the ATI stocks are made of pretty hard FRN and if prepped properly fibreglass will adhere well. the only way it would pop off is if the stock were flexed/twisted significantly -- which is not going to happen at the comb.
NEVER use bondo. bondo is porous and absorbs moisture. and for gods sake people please stop repairing your boats and canoes with it
use quality short strand fiberglass, purchased with the appropriate hardener from an autobody supplier -- and not the Canadian Tire crap. prep the surface well, rough it up, thoroughly degrease it, and when mixing the fibreglass make sure not to use too much hardener. the ATI stocks are made of pretty hard FRN and if prepped properly fibreglass will adhere well. the only way it would pop off is if the stock were flexed/twisted significantly -- which is not going to happen at the comb.
You could get a Scope EZE pad
"Instantly Adds Comb Height For Heavy Recoiling Rifles, Slug Guns
Recoil-absorbing, rubber pad raises the line of sight. Cushions the cheek from recoil for faster, more comfortable shooting. Works for both scope-mounted and open-sight-equipped rifles and shotguns. Made from extra-dense, polymer-foam rubber.
Stick-On - Peel-off adhesive backing won’t shoot loose or shift position. Caution: Installation considered permanent. Adhesive may damage some stock finishes.
Strap-On - Removable/replaceable; velcro and elastic straps attach pad to stock"
http://w w w.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=15487/Product/SCOPE-EZE
I use one on my Husqvarna 1640K.
"Instantly Adds Comb Height For Heavy Recoiling Rifles, Slug Guns
Recoil-absorbing, rubber pad raises the line of sight. Cushions the cheek from recoil for faster, more comfortable shooting. Works for both scope-mounted and open-sight-equipped rifles and shotguns. Made from extra-dense, polymer-foam rubber.
Stick-On - Peel-off adhesive backing won’t shoot loose or shift position. Caution: Installation considered permanent. Adhesive may damage some stock finishes.
Strap-On - Removable/replaceable; velcro and elastic straps attach pad to stock"
http://w w w.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=15487/Product/SCOPE-EZE
I use one on my Husqvarna 1640K.
I had read about those, but concerned whether or not I'd have the right height. How's it work out for you on your Husqvarna?
I actually have one on a Husky and another one on a Savage 111F.
You have to measure (estimate) how much your eye is below the center of the scope WITH YOUR CHEEK ON THE BUTT to get the correct size of pad.
Both of mine are the strap on. I only take the strap on pad off the Husky once a year to tung oil the wood stock. Otherwise, the strap on stays put so it doesn't affect your rifle's zero. The big improvement is that you will be holding your head in a more consistent position with the cheek pad on there -- then without it (because you have no consistent stock weld).
On the Savage I have the 1/4" to 3/4".
On the Husky I have the 5/8" to 1".
You have to measure (estimate) how much your eye is below the center of the scope WITH YOUR CHEEK ON THE BUTT to get the correct size of pad.
Both of mine are the strap on. I only take the strap on pad off the Husky once a year to tung oil the wood stock. Otherwise, the strap on stays put so it doesn't affect your rifle's zero. The big improvement is that you will be holding your head in a more consistent position with the cheek pad on there -- then without it (because you have no consistent stock weld).
On the Savage I have the 1/4" to 3/4".
On the Husky I have the 5/8" to 1".
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do NOT BUY THIS!!!!!!!!
ones sitting on my desk next to me, bigggest POS ive ever seen!!!!!
i havent found a great option yet, learn from my mistake
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I purchased a cartrige holder that has a zippered pocket that will hold some small articles such as earplugs waterproof matches etc. I built up the comb of my stock with some strips of dence foam underneath the shell holder. I think it ia an ADAMS I got it from Grouse River or Mountain Outfitters about $18.
Google: NSSF'S RYAN CLECKNER "CHECK UP YOUR SCOPE FOR SUCESS"- RIFLE SHOOTING TECHINIQUES. he has a very good video so setting up a scope. The cartrige holder is the same as the one he is using.
Google: NSSF'S RYAN CLECKNER "CHECK UP YOUR SCOPE FOR SUCESS"- RIFLE SHOOTING TECHINIQUES. he has a very good video so setting up a scope. The cartrige holder is the same as the one he is using.
seen it lol. Youtube and google are a deadly combination to get lost in. You end up seeing all sorts of goodies you "Need".
