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I recently sealed a deal for a 408 Cheytac rifle, which obviously is capable of some pretty extreme ranges. Now of course, I just need to find a scope to match. I emailed the manufacturer to ask if they recommended any specific scopes and they said no, just to make sure that it has a massive amount of elevation adjustments to be able to compensate for those longer ranges. I tried Google, just all I got was a bunch of stuff about terms and how-to's with the adjustments on a scope. So I was just wondering what some of the options were for scopes that I could use. Apparently the world record (no I'm not trying to beat it, just saying a reference here) was done with a Razor HD 5-20X50 MRAD because it had higher elevation adjustments than the Vortex 4.5-27x56, even though the magnification was less. Now I'm not saying that I plan on shooting out to 4000 yrds or more, and the Razor 5-20x50 does look like a good scope, I'm hoping to find something with a bit more magnification. Can anyone suggest any specific scopes to use? I have no brand loyalties and would be willing to look at any and all scopes as long as they're available here in good ol' Canada. Thanks.
 
Tangent theta 5-25 made in canada top tier glass and lots of travel will be a good match, i have a premier 3-15 tangent theta bought them out for the engineering i believe, it has 28 mil on a 20moa rail which is huge travel.
 
Check some of the reviews on the Razor, there is good and bad on it.

I would suggest a canted rail, 20MOA and the scope depends on your budget, but as you've bought a Cheytac I'm going to assume you have some decent money to spend.

Here's a list of the very best ($$$) to really good ($)

Schmidt and bender, if you really want to reach out, your looking for max 36+ magnification optics
Premier optics
Nightforce
USO
Signtron

You'll have to look through the models of these manufacturers and then find the MOA range in their specs to compare ranges. I'm not going to do that for you, but you should be able to compile a comparison list for a starting point. I believe premier and sightron are out of canada, so you may have better customer support.
 
I bought a Nightforce ATACR with 120moa of vertical adjustment. I also purchased a rail that's 45moa and a mount that's 15moa from Richard Near.

Theoretically, I should be able to dial up the full 120moa. I'm just waiting for the rifle to be completed.

To the above poster, Premier Reticles has been bought by Tangent Theta who now produce the excellent TT525P which has an elevation of 103moa.
 
Started thinking about externally adjusted scope mounts, did some searching.
How about an elevation adjustable base?
Cold Shot MOAB 150 gives 150 minutes of elevation. It would seem that there is a 300 moa version.
 
A one inch scope tube is limited in the amount you can adjust the reticle. Consider a 30mm tube for the most travel but really it requires a base that eliminates wasting elevation at the closer distances. I doubt one base and one scope will adjust from 100 yards to 4000 yards...
 
photog_shooter said:
Who sells US Optics here in Canada now? A quick Google search listed OneShotTactical, but of course they're out of business now
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Youd probably have to order through irunguns, I have heard its a bit more difficult to find them here.

Didn't know about the 60 MOA rail.

If you want the best, I'd start with the S&B, there's a reason you see them in pictures of the folks shooting them overseas on long range "sniper" rigs, their reputation is at the top.

For me, Id start looking at the sightrons biggest magnification, I'm sure there will be enough adjustment in their SV 10-50x60 34mm scopes.
 
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cody c said:
Youd probably have to order through irunguns, I have heard its a bit more difficult to find them here.

Didn't know about the 60 MOA rail.

If you want the best, I'd start with the S&B, there's a reason you see them in pictures of the folks shooting them overseas on long range "sniper" rigs, their reputation is at the top.

For me, Id start looking at the sightrons biggest magnification, I'm sure there will be enough adjustment in their SV 10-50x60 34mm scopes.
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I think Barton's does US Optics
 
Shooting a round like that there is no reason to cheap out (vortex is cheaping out) my S&B pmii had to be sent in for warranty work i would still recommend it but the scope will make the system do it justice spend as much or more on the optics you can't hit what you can't see tagent theta is $6000 but it's the best and made in Canada.
 
Cummins said:
Shooting a round like that there is no reason to cheap out (vortex is cheaping out) my S&B pmii had to be sent in for warranty work i would still recommend it but the scope will make the system do it justice spend as much or more on the optics you can't hit what you can't see tagent theta is $6000 but it's the best and made in Canada.
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You mean I can't use a Weaver or Leapers scope off of Ebay??? Damn... Well there goes that plan :rolleyes: I wasn't planning on cheaping out on a scope for this gun, and no where in my original post do I mention wanting to do so. All I asked was what scopes are out there that offer a very wide range of elevation adjustment.
 
Cummins said:
Shooting a round like that there is no reason to cheap out (vortex is cheaping out) my S&B pmii had to be sent in for warranty work i would still recommend it but the scope will make the system do it justice spend as much or more on the optics you can't hit what you can't see tagent theta is $6000 but it's the best and made in Canada.
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Lol any of the Vortex Razor Tactical scopes isn't cheaping out. The Vortex Razor AMG has the same amount of Elevation travel as the S&B PMII 5-25. The 4.5-27 has even more. Have a look at a couple different scopes and decide from there. Another option that hasn't been mentioned is Kahles if you can find one in Canada.
 
Your best bet would be Schmidt and Bender or US Optics. Both optics, once zero'd, allow you to reset the elevation turrets to allow FULL use of the entire elevation. (my understanding and the way the USO guy explained it at SHOT). This means on most scopes you only get 50% of the total elevation (up) and can offset that with a rail. (add 20moa or whatever the rail is to the 50% available. With the S&B or the USO, you can put on the 60moa base with the Cadex, zero the rifle, and have the full 100moa (or whatever the optic has) giving you the full range of adjustment available.

But with the 60moa, you will need at least the ATACR with 120moa if you want anything less than a 300m zero.
 
photog_shooter said:
I was planning on a 500 yrd zero and I've been eyeing the Vortex Razor HD line, specifically the Gen II 4.5-27x56. I was also looking at the US Optics offerings, but I can't find anything with enough elevation that's available here in Canada (don't really want to deal with importing hassles).
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It's heavy, but a beautiful scope. I doubt weight is really a concern on this build of yours.
 
OP, you may be interested in a new gizmo for achieving huge amounts of elevation. Bends light instead of moving scope or mounts.
Look up a "Charlie TARAC". I have one and it works.
 
Dmay said:
OP, you may be interested in a new gizmo for achieving huge amounts of elevation. Bends light instead of moving scope or mounts.
Look up a "Charlie TARAC". I have one and it works.
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Something about this makes me think of the saying, "fake it til you make it"... Thanks for the suggestion but I'm going to stick with a scope with adequate built in elevation adjustment.
 
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