score shotshells

[saskbooknut]

There are no aluminum head shotshells. The silver coloured ones are steel. The problem with steel is that it doesn't shrink back after firing, like the brass head shotshells do.
Having said that, guns that have a highly polished chamber, are much less likely to experience the problem of sticking shells.

Winchester AA, Remington STS and Remington Nitro27 still have brass heads on their shotshells.

I have a flock of guns that do not experience sticking shells - Benelli, Beretta, Browning, Bernardelli, AyA, Winchester, Cooey - you get my point.
Most of the world uses shotshells with steel heads - lots of them on premium brands like Fiocchi and B&P.

 

[antiqueguy]

There are no aluminum head shotshells. The silver coloured ones are steel. The problem with steel is that it doesn't shrink back after firing, like the brass head shotshells do.
Having said that, guns that have a highly polished chamber, are much less likely to experience the problem of sticking shells.

Winchester AA, Remington STS and Remington Nitro27 still have brass heads on their shotshells.

I have a flock of guns that do not experience sticking shells - Benelli, Beretta, Browning, Bernardelli, AyA, Winchester, Cooey - you get my point.
Most of the world uses shotshells with steel heads - lots of them on premium brands like Fiocchi and B&P.

I have a pile of Winchester polyformed hulls that would debate the fact that they have aluminum heads because they do they don't stick to a magnet and since they are cheap shells I highly doubt they are some plated brass. other Winchester polyformed hulls have a brass plated steel head like they waterfowl loads as well as their slug loads.

https://winchester.com/Products/Ammunition/Shotshell/Super-Target these are the ones I am talking about.

ok edit checking with a strong magnet they do stick these must be softer steel or loaded really hot then.

 

[antiqueguy]

I have a pile of Winchester polyformed hulls that would debate the fact that they have aluminum heads because they do they don't stick to a magnet and since they are cheap shells I highly doubt they are some plated brass. other Winchester polyformed hulls have a brass plated steel head like they waterfowl loads as well as their slug loads.

https://winchester.com/Products/Ammunition/Shotshell/Super-Target these are the ones I am talking about.

btw 1 out of 3 of the shells with the game load will stick in my old bolt gun.

 

[saskbooknut]

Any Super Target hull that I ever handled, and that would be thousands, stuck to a magnet.
Yours may be special.

 

[antiqueguy]

Any Super Target hull that I ever handled, and that would be thousands, stuck to a magnet.
Yours may be special.

they do I think my old magnet is dead grabbed one out of a microwave transformer and they flew to it. they are tin plated though not nickel and the steel is very soft almost like iron unlike their high brass stuff and federals target loads.

 

[Rugdoc]

It's all I use for waterfowl if I can find 'em.

I got them at Wholesale sports in Langley but they shut down.

Then a guy on a hunting site was quitting waterfowling and sold me a near full case of 3-inch #3 loads, which is exactly what I needed. Good for at least another season now.

 

[Westward1]

they do I think my old magnet is dead grabbed one out of a microwave transformer and they flew to it. they are tin plated though not nickel and the steel is very soft almost like iron unlike their high brass stuff and federals target loads.

The only way Winchester could make Super Targets cheaper would be to start leaving out shot, powder or the wad. But they still break targets.

 

[saskbooknut]

Not true. Winchester does make a cheaper shell than Super Target. They are called Universal, the nastiest, bottom of the barrel shotshells on the market.

 

[3macs1]

I would not reload them Super targets . That design have taken out more than one barrel and known for the base to separate big time

 

[Westward1]

I would not reload them Super targets . That design have taken out more than one barrel and known for the base to separate big time

Where do you find Universals ? I have not seen the since my local Walmart quit selling shells, many years ago. I find more bad crimps, broken case heads and collapsed hulls in Super Targets than I did in the Universals. I guess I have shot a lot more Super Targets though.

 

[Leadbeard]

Great ammo never had a problem

 

[3macs1]

Where do you find Universals ? I have not seen the since my local Walmart quit selling shells, many years ago. I find more bad crimps, broken case heads and collapsed hulls in Super Targets than I did in the Universals. I guess I have shot a lot more Super Targets though.

No idea sorry on the universals. I was talking the super targets which are trash and dangerous to reload

Cheers

 

[antiqueguy]

I would not reload them Super targets . That design have taken out more than one barrel and known for the base to separate big time

I may use them for black powder but that's about it. I never throw hulls out for some reason I also got a pile of federal top gun hulls and other "hi power" hulls with the paper basewad.

I have thousands of good hulls federal gold medal, old Winchester AA, ivi imperial, Remington RXP's, peters blue magic and Cheddite and then theirs the junk hulls like Winchester steel shot hulls and federal top gun.

 

[MechanicalSparky25]

Love score, hate challenger,

I agree with this statement.

The blue budget challenger birdshot shells are a C hair shorter than other 2-3/4” shells. So about 20% of the time the shell will fall past the shell lifter in a Mossberg 500. Easy enough just stopped buying these but I’m sure others have it happen to them and blame the gun ?

Also last time by buddy ran some challenger birdshot through my 500, some shells flipped like I just described, but one got stuck in the chamber and the dual extractors wouldn’t extract it. I had to remove the barrel and use a flathead to remove the shell.

I cannot remember if I’ve used challenger slugs. But I have 100 challenger 00 buckshots at home I’m really glad I stocked up on and never shot...

 

[antiqueguy]

I agree with this statement.

The blue budget challenger birdshot shells are a C hair shorter than other 2-3/4” shells. So about 20% of the time the shell will fall past the shell lifter in a Mossberg 500. Easy enough just stopped buying these but I’m sure others have it happen to them and blame the gun ?

Also last time by buddy ran some challenger birdshot through my 500, some shells flipped like I just described, but one got stuck in the chamber and the dual extractors wouldn’t extract it. I had to remove the barrel and use a flathead to remove the shell.

I cannot remember if I’ve used challenger slugs. But I have 100 challenger 00 buckshots at home I’m really glad I stocked up on and never shot...

haven't had that problem then again im using an old bolt action that will cycle just about anything other then Aguila min shells and a double that will eat anything.

 

[Westward1]

No idea sorry on the universals. I was talking the super targets which are trash and dangerous to reload

Cheers

Sorry, I quoted the wrong post.

 

[3macs1]

I may use them for black powder but that's about it. I never throw hulls out for some reason I also got a pile of federal top gun hulls and other "hi power" hulls with the paper basewad.

I have thousands of good hulls federal gold medal, old Winchester AA, ivi imperial, Remington RXP's, peters blue magic and Cheddite and then theirs the junk hulls like Winchester steel shot hulls and federal top gun.

It's your guns , hands and face. To me they are the worst out there for basewad separation and better hulls are not hard to find
Cheers

 

[antiqueguy]

It's your guns , hands and face. To me they are the worst out there for basewad separation and better hulls are not hard to find
Cheers

I may just turn them into drawer pulls.

 

[3macs1]

I may just turn them into drawer pulls.

That or xmas lights would be wise
take care

 

[antiqueguy]

That or xmas lights would be wise
take care

I have a bad habit of keeping all my empty's even shells I don't like or can't id. the ones I can't id go into the BP hull bag BP tends to melt them a bit so only good for 1 or 2 reloads.

I do like going to the range and finding challenger hulls in the brass bin though I will take all the Cheddite I can get my hands on also challenger target loads use Cheddite wads as well.

I haven't ran into the plastic base wad top guns yet the last flat I bought 3 years ago was made in 2008 kind of happy people bought up almost everything from my local Canadian tires just to get rid of that old stock.