Seal hunting

The prevalence of the .222 is interesting to me...with the ammunition prices for .223 being so low these days you'd think that would be a logical choice between the two. I guess there are just a whole bunch of .222 chambered rifles out there being used.

Jeff/1911.
 
Why no seal hunting in BC...................I know most of the fishermen would sure like one, (although most of them practice the art of seal culling when they think one is watching).

The answer is because it is BC. The huge population of tree hugging, environmentalist, anti-hunting, animal rights proponents, friends of the spirit bear, rain forest coalition, truely enlightened, peace and love, residents in the lower mainland would not stand for seal hunting.
 
Most of the guys now use .223 or .22-250 due to the price of ammo, plus both calibers offer very good performance for the task at hand. The Remington Model 7, Model 700, Savage and Ruger Mini-14 are all popular choices amongst the commercial guys. Meat hunters/non-commerical fishermen taking seals for meat, will often use whatever rifle they happen to own, or a 12 ga and BB shot.

Cold salt water and lots of blubber help to keep them buoyant so very few seals are lost during the open season. Most of the guys hunting inshore have boats or use floating jiggers to retrieve their seals. Hunting off shore on the pack ice is a little easier because you often get presented with on-ice shots that sure beats the hell out of trying to hit a bobbing seal's head/neck in open water from an 18 foot trap skiff with a good lop on the water! Plus they blend into the water, so they're damn hard to see...add in a bit of slob ice or fog and you have to be a helluva shot or exceedingly lucky to make the shot. No problem on the "fair chase" in this case.

For more info, check out the thread in the "Articles" forum, where I discuss the issue in detail. For those who don't know, it is illegal to club baby seal pups (also called Whitecoats) and has been so for 20+ years. Only mature seals are taken. Harp seals are harvested for both their pelts (used in the fashion industry) as well as the meat. Seal meat is rich in iron and omega-3 fatty acides. When cooked it is very dark in color, almost black. Flippers are a delicacy and are almost 100% protein. Basically natures health food.

They are often first boiled off to get rid of most of the grease, then baked/roasted in the oven with fresh vegetable and/or covered in a dough crust or paste for "flipper pie". Seal carcass is also much in demand and is most often baked/roasted in the oven.

Seal sausage, pepperoni, salami as well as canned/bottled seal meat is produced for the local and export markets.

Health food supplements, including Omega-3 capsules are produced for the nutraceutical markets, while the inedible parts of the seal are ground up to produce meal for the aquaculture industry, along with fur farming operations including mink and fox. Almost the entire animal is used, with very little wastage.

There are 5-6 million harp seals off Newfoundland & Labrador. Each year there are barely a quarter million animals harvested...that doesn't even put a dent in the population growth. When you consider that a mature harp seal can consume 30 lbs of northern cod each day (and they don't eat the full fish, just the soft gut and other delicacies) multiplied by 6 million seals, that's a lot of fish!

Northern Cod stocks are near extinction and how Harp seals have invaded our freshwater systems! They're now eating spawning Atlantic Salmon in our rivers and ponds, along with our brook trout and sea-run German Browns. I've personally seen seals sunning themselves on the Trans-Canada Highway over 100 Kms from the nearest Sal####er!!!!

With seal pelt prices on a high the past few years, guys are getting as high as $70.00 a pelt, plus they sell the flippers and carcass separately, so a single seal can be worth anywhere from $65 up to almost $100.00, depending on the quality of the pelt. For a fisherman living on $400-$500 EI every two weeks, the opportunity to make $10,000-$20,000 in just a couple of weeks (in a good year) can mean the world to him and his family...even though he has to risk his life to do so.
 
Xman........good post.

Boomer............so what is the deal with seal hunting on the Hudson Bay coast in Manitoba? I can't find anything in the regs ....not that that is too surprising.
 
The permit is issued by the Nunavut Government and there is no limit as I recall. The border of Nunavut and Manitoba is the low tide line, so interestingly enough I suppose when I shoot a seal in the mouth if the river I'm in Manitoba, but around the corner I'm in Nunavut. Any island - read rock - sticking out of the water in Hudson Bay is considered to be part of Nunavut. The permit allows for the taking of seals by shooting or by seal nets, and the guys who shoot them from boats in the summer often use shotguns.
 
Interesting statement Boomer about shotguns because, I remember reading once a story about a fellow who hunted seals from a boat and he swore up and down that his Ithaca M37 worked really well. (the exact gauge escapes me right now and choke/barrel length) It had exellent reach with shot he said,and it also was accurate with slugs when he used it for deer.
 
Interesting.............no non-resident issues getting a permit from the Nunavut Government? I would have thought that the local trappers/hunters associations would be very unhappy about non-residents shooting their seals.

I wouldn't mind getting a couple of seal skins.:)
 
You are not allowed to use shotguns for seals in Newfoundland. .223's and .222's and ,22 mags are the most popular rifles used. Hunting seals from a small boat is high adventure
 
Sasquatch said:
Interesting.............no non-resident issues getting a permit from the Nunavut Government? I would have thought that the local trappers/hunters associations would be very unhappy about non-residents shooting their seals.

I wouldn't mind getting a couple of seal skins.:)

The Nunavut permits are issued through Manitoba Conservation - here at least.
 
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I was talking to one of the Newfie fellas at work today, and he said they used to have a couple 25/20's they used. Kinda hard to do that in Manitoba though

Boomer said:


When I said Manitoba I was refering to him being here in Thompson, not the entire province. I know that you guys in Churchill and the out lying areas can shoot seals and have that option, being by the bay, but it's not that easy down here.
 
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The fish farms on the B.C coast get permits to shoot seals. I mised out on a job where they were gona pay me to kill seals by one hour :(

Like Gatehouse says i think alot of people dont realize there protected as i find dozens of em washed up on the beach, I bet i could go out today walk a mile on the beaches here and find 3 or 4 and they aint all dieing of natural causes. ;)
 
dingus said:
I bet i could go out today walk a mile on the beaches here and find 3 or 4 and they aint all dieing of natural causes. ;)

WTF :confused: I'm thinking its about a 60 mile lap around Quadra so are you saying there's 200 or so dead seals on your beaches? :confused:
 
HaHaHa :D Maby.
No im talking the east side from rebeca spit south the wind blows everthing from the Strait up on that side of Quadra. I find sea lions
even deer but mainly seals lots of em well my dogs find em.
The fish farms kill em they dont harvest them.
 
I wonder how many healthy living people realize their Omega 3 fatty acid pills come from processed seals?

As for quotas, I believe the cod fish is a more important species in the larger universe than seals. Boost the quotas high enough, long enough to depopulate whole regions. Unless the celebrities are willing to fund an alternative economy for rural people, they should not be given credability to protest.

Fish farms should be allowed to kill varmints the same way cattle ranchers kill coyotes and gophers. I like salmon; I've eaten seal and wouldn't do it again.
 
Size! there just huge MFing seals to me :D
The males have a big broad forehead and a huge skull

I found one Male over 9 ft long washed up dead, and must of been 1500lbs biger around than a 45 gallon drum.
I cut off the head with a new Hand saw and an axe and the head weighed 100lbs + at least it nearly crippled me draging it back to the van 1/2 a mile.
The dogs helped when they pulled in the right direction :rolleyes:

I got the skull out bleaching its cool looks like a big grizzly skull with bad teeth.
 
Why no seal hunt in BC?

I don't really know.

As far as I know, there either has never been a seal hunt here, or it was a long time ago.

It could be simply that noone has asked for one.:confused:
 
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