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I would go with a 308. It has a huge variety of different bullets and loads to chose from, so you could kill all three and shoot targets for cheap.
 
I really appreciate these replies. I should have stated where I am located. I am in East Gwillimbury, ON - just north of Toronto.

Great thing that you guys reminded me about the discharge of firearm laws. I checked those for my area and:

"A land owner or a tenant, or agent authorized in writing by the
land owner or tenant, and the discharge is of a shotgun or a
rifle of no greater caliber than .275 ....."

I'd say then that the first rifle ought to be one I could legally discharge on my property and perhaps a .270 wins out by that measure.

I had just assumed a .308 would be fine as my neighbour owns one. Realistically this will be fired many more times on a range than on my property (finding an appropriate range where I could do all that I wanted - rifle, handgun, skeet - that's another story entirely!)
 
What suggestions would you give me wrt. brand of rifle, length of action? I'm very new and very impressionable so all your opinions are welcome. I had started on the Tikka as it seemed to be a budget version of the Sako which I am told is a very nice rifle. Plus the Tikka seems to look good.

I think anything around $800 to $1000 for a new rifle plus rings and scopes.

I'd certainly be happiest if I could purchase a combo of rifle, scope rings for a discount. Would appreciate if any of you could suggest what brands/actoins to keep any eye out for / what to avoid?
 
Guess it is the .270 even though it is .277".:p

Also .243 with quality bullets for hunting , 25-06 less common but more pop,.260 Rem, 6.5 x 55 OR 270WSM for good poop and still be within regs.

Remington 700 in .270 would be a nice tool.
 
The 30-06 can be loaded up with anything from 110gr to 220gr, factory and by hand.
It's probably the most versatile round, and you can load up light loads for plinking.
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You do realize that you just asked a group of fat kids what the best flavour of icecream is to eat when you really want icecream... All three of those are good, I personally would choose the .270 because I have hunted with one and it was extremely effective on deer with simple white box winchester powerpoint 150's. It was good enough to be my grandpas long range/moose rifle for a long time.
 
For a non reloader the 270 is the way to go.
The other question is, where will you be deer and moose hunting? Is your area shotgun only for deer hunting? Or will you be heading north where you may be able to use a rifle.
I might suggest a 243 for your area and later pick up a 308 or the other way around, deer/moose rifle first then a varmint/practice rifle later.
To be in your shoes again, so much to consider in a short time.
257Roberts
 
canoetrpr said:
I really appreciate these replies. I should have stated where I am located. I am in East Gwillimbury, ON - just north of Toronto.

Great thing that you guys reminded me about the discharge of firearm laws. I checked those for my area and:

"A land owner or a tenant, or agent authorized in writing by the
land owner or tenant, and the discharge is of a shotgun or a
rifle of no greater caliber than .275 ....."

I'd say then that the first rifle ought to be one I could legally discharge on my property and perhaps a .270 wins out by that measure.

I had just assumed a .308 would be fine as my neighbour owns one. Realistically this will be fired many more times on a range than on my property (finding an appropriate range where I could do all that I wanted - rifle, handgun, skeet - that's another story entirely!)
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For the purposes you described a 308 is a excellent choice.
However I understand your logic behind the 270.
My response is if you plan on shooting "just north of To" you might want to pick a gun with much less muzzle blast than a 270 or 308, unless you don't mind SWAT team visits every once in a while!
Perhaps you might want to consider a 308 for range & hunting & a .22 Hornet or even just a .22lr for shooting on your property.
 
Doesn`t matter what you start with once you get hooked you will buy another. It`s like eating chips you can`t just have one. Perhaps a 243 to start, low recoil and ammo is readily available, good for varmints and deer.
 
There is no wrong answer between the cartridges you've shown interest in; they all operate within the same performance envelope. Choose the rifle that best suits your budget, interest, and imagination and just go with which ever cartridge its chambered for. The rifle is the key, not the cartridge. Some questions that might influence your choice should include . . .
Is the trigger good, poor, or just acceptable acceptable?
Can you cycle the action at your shoulder or is it too stiff or too difficult to reach?
Do you want a fixed or a detachable magazine?
Do you want iron sights?
Does the rifle have a stock that allows fitting if it needs modification?
Does the rifle provide a suitable scope mounting solution with the correct eye relief?
Is the rifle suitable for all day carry without undue fatigue?
Does the rifle handle nicely, or do you find the controls inconvenient?
Will the rifle's finish protect it from exposure to the elements?
Is the finish shiny or subdued, and is this the finish you're after?

As you'll note, many of these questions require actually handling the rifle before you can answer them. So go to your local gun shop, handle a few different rifles, and decide what works, what doesn't, and determine why it does or doesn't work. From even just that experience, you'll be in a much better position to decide which rifle to purchase. Avoid blind magazines, cheap plastic stocks, and bargain basement scope/rifle combination sets.
 
Boomer said:
There is no wrong answer between the cartridges you've shown interest in; they all operate within the same performance envelope. Choose the rifle that best suits your budget, interest, and imagination and just go with which ever cartridge its chambered for. The rifle is the key, not the cartridge. Some questions that might influence your choice should include . . .
Is the trigger good, poor, or just acceptable acceptable?
Can you cycle the action at your shoulder or is it too stiff or too difficult to reach?
Do you want a fixed or a detachable magazine?
Do you want iron sights?
Does the rifle have a stock that allows fitting if it needs modification?
Does the rifle provide a suitable scope mounting solution with the correct eye relief?
Is the rifle suitable for all day carry without undue fatigue?
Does the rifle handle nicely, or do you find the controls inconvenient?
Will the rifle's finish protect it from exposure to the elements?
Is the finish shiny or subdued, and is this the finish you're after?

As you'll note, many of these questions require actually handling the rifle before you can answer them. So go to your local gun shop, handle a few different rifles, and decide what works, what doesn't, and determine why it does or doesn't work. From even just that experience, you'll be in a much better position to decide which rifle to purchase. Avoid blind magazines, cheap plastic stocks, and bargain basement scope/rifle combination sets.
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:agree:
This is the best advice you will ever get. Fit and feel is a very personal thing so be sure to handle the rifles before making your decision.

Regards; Aubrey
 
For a newb I would always recommend a 308. Plentiful ammo, very manageable recoil and light overall weight. That said, newbs become more experienced and you may decide that you want more rifle. The 30-06 has pretty much the same availablity for ammo, more recoil (can be mitigated by handloading or buying "Managed Recoil" ammo) and isn't much heavier. Plus you can more effectively shoot 180 or 200gr bullets should you decide that's what you want (I am, and imagine I always will be, a 180 grain Partition guy in my 30-06).

Really it's a chop pot between the three. Depending on where you live the 270 might be preferable (ie open country where long shots may be more common) but it's hard to go wrong with the 30-06. It's really one-size-fits-all.
 
For deer and varmints you'll want the .270, and with 150 grain Nosler Partitions it'll work well on moose. Stay away from the Remington 770, it's poorly made. Try out Savage, Ruger, Tikka, Weatherby Vanguard, Marlin XL-7...all good rifles for reasonable money. Best bang for your buck on scopes will probably be the Bushnell Elite 3-9X40, it has great glass you'd pay over double for from Leupold, and Rainguard, which lets you see and shoot something even in the rain.
 
A rifle that fits you, is comfortable, and you actually enjoy shooting is
much more important than what it is chambered for.
But a 6.5x55 Swede would do everything you ask of it,
and still be legal to shoot on your property.

For instance...
http://www.shop.tradeexcanada.com/content/bsa-cf2-65x55-1
Another $300 for rings a nice scope, you'd have a set up
that could do it all, and would be hard to beat.
 
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pisces-guy said:
For deer and varmints you'll want the .270, and with 150 grain Nosler Partitions it'll work well on moose. Stay away from the Remington 770, it's poorly made. Try out Savage, Ruger, Tikka, Weatherby Vanguard, Marlin XL-7...all good rifles for reasonable money. Best bang for your buck on scopes will probably be the Bushnell Elite 3-9X40, it has great glass you'd pay over double for from Leupold, and Rainguard, which lets you see and shoot something even in the rain.
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As long as you believe,then nobody else needs to!
 
Kelly Timoffee said:
All 3 of those choices will work and with good availability of ammunition.

Depending on budget , Savage has many offerings in many price ranges.

The only way I would sway is the .308 as you mention some range use, manageable recoil and abundance of many type of ammo for such.
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Agree on all points.:agree:

I have all three, but seeing 150gr Winchester PowerMax's in .308Win at Cambodian Tire for $20, scores big on economy, so you can't beat that.:)
 
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