Searching for a MOA reticle

ericrose said:
I wonder if they installed the reticle upside down? By accident or by not having a clue.
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There is a valid, brilliant and pratical reason for that so called ‘upside down’ reticle for shooting pigs and deer at night in the forest. The heavy post from the top cannot be confused with a tree trunk, because trees don’t grow down from the sky. To achieve this the german scopes with 3 heavy posts were intentionally mounted upside down and notes were made that the windage and elevation adjustments were now opposite. Learned this adaptation from a very experienced shooter long time ago. Seems stupid until you try it… in Germany shooting from tree stands at night was highly effective with the inverted crosshair. Remember, shooting daytime vs nigh-time, and shooting paper vs animals are different games needing different systems. Christmas tree reticles were the rage for some time and endorsed by Santa Clause for the target shooting games only.lol…. Way too busy and they look like specks of fly sh”t on the lenses to me.
 
Mr Bill said:
....Christmas tree reticles were the rage for some time and endorsed by Santa Clause for the target shooting games only.lol…. Way too busy and they look like specks of fly sh”t on the lenses to me.
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I am not sure if these would be a good choice for paper target shooting neither. Too busy and cannot track your POI.
If you cannot learn how to compensate POA-POI with a simple reticle, the Christmas tree reticle won`t help neither.
Just my tinkering, I never had one to put up a strong argument.
 
Mr Bill said:
There is a valid, brilliant and pratical reason for that so called ‘upside down’ reticle for shooting pigs and deer at night in the forest. The heavy post from the top cannot be confused with a tree trunk, because trees don’t grow down from the sky. To achieve this the german scopes with 3 heavy posts were intentionally mounted upside down and notes were made that the windage and elevation adjustments were now opposite. Learned this adaptation from a........
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Do you think that's a real thing? Or maybe a "story"? Scope would have to be mounted high enough for elevation turret, now on the bottom, to clear. And how in the world would you adjust elevation? Especially presuming it would have to be done "above" the turret, not like some modern exposed turrets which can dialed from the side.......
 
Dmay said:
Do you think that's a real thing? Or maybe a "story"? Scope would have to be mounted high enough for elevation turret, now on the bottom, to clear. And how in the world would you adjust elevation? Especially presuming it would have to be done "above" the turret, not like some modern exposed turrets which can dialed from the side.......
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Been there, seen it, done it… 30-40 years ago turrets were sleek and low (room for adjustment) unlike target turrets of today that are so big they may be on Viagara. I ran a fixed power 8x56 S&B that way 20 years ago for animal damage control at night on coyotes. Now we have countless weapons lights, lasers, night vision and thermals that have replaced old school poachers hacks. The Germans/Austrians had great optics with objective lenses as big as fish bowls and sophisticated scope mounting systems. They shot at night, not from tree stands but ‘tree houses’. Class act, class equipment. We don’t even get to see some of their reticles here in North America that are designed for the European market.
 
You do you ✔️ It's not a great recticle: and there are numerous reasons why ... There are so many great & easy to use recticle scopes out there ...

But, it's always to each his own. Good luck with that ✔️ if it was a great price to you - and you like it, then it's good for you 👍
 
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