Secondary optics (red dot or holosight)?

Used to have an instructor who would get VERY UPSET if we didn't dial the power down to the lowest setting on our scopes between training evolutions.....
 
SO a secondary optic has its primary use in competition use. We will say professional level use.

That most would benefit more from practicing on using 2 eyes open while behind the rifle to move from target to target, if dialing down the optic is not an option.
 
Canadiankeeper said:
SO a secondary optic has its primary use in competition use. We will say professional level use.

That most would benefit more from practicing on using 2 eyes open while behind the rifle to move from target to target, if dialing down the optic is not an option.
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Should be shooting with both eyes open regardless of whether you are using a "SO" as we are calling it, or not.
 
Ok. So I have a red dot mounted on the side of an 8-32 NXS. It is set up so the dot and the scope intersect at a mile. It would never even be a thought to engage a target, at any distance, with the red dot. That isn't what it's for. Two eyes open, three, or four, isn't going to help you locate a target quickly in a field position, because most times you can't see it anyway. Put the red dot on the area where the target is located, and acquire said target in the scope. Distance buys time. Use it to work the magnification ring on the scope.
If all of the shooting is to be done at a range, then I would suggest the SO is no more than bling. When in field shooting positions, looking for, and acquiring dynamic targets, it has been proven to be invaluable.
Again, not too hard to tell the guys that shoot, from the ones that shoot from the couch.

R.
 
Rman said:
Ok. So I have a red dot mounted on the side of an 8-32 NXS. It is set up so the dot and the scope intersect at a mile. It would never even be a thought to engage a target, at any distance, with the red dot. That isn't what it's for. Two eyes open, three, or four, isn't going to help you locate a target quickly in a field position, because most times you can't see it anyway. Put the red dot on the area where the target is located, and acquire said target in the scope. Distance buys time. Use it to work the magnification ring on the scope.
If all of the shooting is to be done at a range, then I would suggest the SO is no more than bling. When in field shooting positions, looking for, and acquiring dynamic targets, it has been proven to be invaluable.
Again, not too hard to tell the guys that shoot, from the ones that shoot from the couch.

R.
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This makes perfect sense, especially since there are no ranges where I live and all shooting is in the field.
 
Rman said:
Ok. So I have a red dot mounted on the side of an 8-32 NXS. It is set up so the dot and the scope intersect at a mile. It would never even be a thought to engage a target, at any distance, with the red dot. That isn't what it's for. Two eyes open, three, or four, isn't going to help you locate a target quickly in a field position, because most times you can't see it anyway. Put the red dot on the area where the target is located, and acquire said target in the scope. Distance buys time. Use it to work the magnification ring on the scope.
If all of the shooting is to be done at a range, then I would suggest the SO is no more than bling. When in field shooting positions, looking for, and acquiring dynamic targets, it has been proven to be invaluable.
Again, not too hard to tell the guys that shoot, from the ones that shoot from the couch.

R.
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I sincerely hope that high horsed comment was aimed at me. I would love to shoot from things so comfortable as a couch.

Even yourself ( The major league sniper) said, it is useful in dynamic targets... (maybe it is I haven't tried it or felt the need to with 20/20 vision and shooting at bright painted steel)
So you agree with MY statement, that competition level professionals are the ones it fits to. Not a hunter, a range shooter or someone out shooting static targets with no time limit...

So a large amount of firearms enthusiast it is just rifle bling. Like I have been saying the entire time, from my chair (not using a laptop or I would be on my couch yes).
 
photog_shooter said:
This makes perfect sense, especially since there are no ranges where I live and all shooting is in the field.
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Is it a 2 way range? Are you under a time pressure to shoot the target... If you are target shooting (not in competition) or hunting. That answer is no. So no need to drop a red dot on, nothing a pair of bino's and good shooting habits wont let you stretch out to.
 
Canadiankeeper said:
I sincerely hope that high horsed comment was aimed at me. I would love to shoot from things so comfortable as a couch.

Even yourself ( The major league sniper) said, it is useful in dynamic targets... (maybe it is I haven't tried it or felt the need to with 20/20 vision and shooting at bright painted steel)
So you agree with MY statement, that competition level professionals are the ones it fits to. Not a hunter, a range shooter or someone out shooting static targets with no time limit...

So a large amount of firearms enthusiast it is just rifle bling. Like I have been saying the entire time, from my chair (not using a laptop or I would be on my couch yes).
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It wasn't really aimed at anybody in particular, but if you feel the need to take it on the chin, so to speak, then fill your boots. If sharing actual experience, makes me a "major league sniper" in your books, then I would highly suggest getting some different books. Bottom line, I've done it, you haven't. It works for me, and I really don't have any ####s to give if it does, or doesn't work for anybody else. But then, how are you supposed to know, if you don't do it? I have better than 20/20 vision, but I'm not shooting at brightly painted targets. You must have missed that part?
I don't agree with you at all, mostly because you don't have any actual experience behind your argument, whatever it is.
If its that a fella wants to throw a red dot on his rig to make it look extra snipery, then so what? I guess it will go well with the MMA T-shirts, or cammy jammys, or whatever other sterotype gets flung around. I really don't care what some dude does or doesn't put on his rig, as it doesn't affect me in any way, at all, plus I gots my own stuff to worry about.
Funny how that works?

R.
 
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mebiuspower said:
Trijicon RMR 1MOA Dot Adjustable LED version. Just tested it yesterday, it really does work transitioning between targets if your scope is all the way magnified. Not gimmicky at all.
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Cool thanks. You find a 1 MOA dot is a good size? If iI got one I would would want to be able to use it other gus like my AR or shotgun.
 
Roddy said:
Cool thanks. You find a 1 MOA dot is a good size? If iI got one I would would want to be able to use it other gus like my AR or shotgun.
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For this application yes. I can always dial up the brightness if I want it to be more visible during the day. But for shotgun maybe you want to go with 3.25 MOA or even 6.5 MOA.

 
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