Seeking other 700s in 7mm-06!
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I assume you mean .280 Rem and 7mm Rem Express chambered rifles? Or are we talking stamped 7mm-06? The .280 Rem came out in 1957 IIRC thereby ending the 7mm-06 wildcat five years before the 700 was put into production. I find it weird the factory would stamp one with the wildcat designation. Cool if they did, definitely something I did not know.
I assume you mean .280 Rem and 7mm Rem Express chambered rifles? Or are we talking stamped 7mm-06? The .280 Rem came out in 1957 IIRC thereby ending the 7mm-06 wildcat five years before the 700 was put into production. I find it weird the factory would stamp one with the wildcat designation. Cool if they did, definitely something I did not know.
This pic shows the build date. X is December, Q is 1978. It is the latest serial number and only December built one that I know of. All others I've seen documented were assembled in November of '78 for the '79 calendar year sales.
As far as I know if was just a screw up by someone at Remington who didn't really know the difference between the .280 Remington and a 7mm 06. They were in an advertising phase trying to increase interest in the old .280... the 7mm 06 was chambered exactly the same as the .280 Remington, it does not have the chamber dimensions of a 7mm 06.
.280 Remington, 7mm 06, 7mm Express, .280 Remington.
.280 Remington, 7mm 06, 7mm Express, .280 Remington.
I have actually seen one of those 700's marked 7mm-06 Remington, but it was a couple of decades ago, and I cannot even remember who had it.
I have one marked 7mm Express Remington, which are considerably more common.
As Guntech wrote, the designation has come full circle. lol.
Regards, Dave.
I have one marked 7mm Express Remington, which are considerably more common.
As Guntech wrote, the designation has come full circle. lol.
Regards, Dave.
Wasn't really a screw up. When the name change was suggested to bring new life to the cartridge, 7mm-06Rem was chosen but later retracted, as stated above, but some of the rifles had received the -06 roll mark. They were mistakenly shipped and recalled. Some came back and were re-barreled to 7mmExpRem. This, I believe, is why some ExpRems are serial numbered earlier than some of the -06s, unless the two roll marks were used at the same time!
I think there it was a screw up...it never should have made it past a bad idea... except for the bolt face size there is nothing similar in an 06 case and a 280 case... different in shoulder angle, case length, neck length and headspace... adding REM at the end of 7mm 06 doesn't change that.
Oh, I agree. Calling it what they did was in fact an error in judgement. The reasoning that the cartridges designations don't share the dimensions needed to be, is sound. Common sense says to match cartridge to rifle, but peoples were even touching off the 7mmExpRem in the 7mmMag due to confusions!
Yup, Guntech is right.
According to several different (internet) sources, there was a run of 200 made in 1978 prior to the 7mm express debut, most were shipped to gun writers of the day. They promptly recalled them once they realized people may actually try and shoot 7mm-06 rounds in them. Apparently 160 made it back to the factory.
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Where do I find 7mm-06 brass? 
That will be the next thread.
That will be the next thread.
Where do I find 7mm-06 brass?
That will be the next thread.
Already found a box of ammo, but it seems to not be for sale!
This rifle (7mm 06 Remington) also has the same date stamp. It is the second one I have owned. This one is almost unfired... almost as new... as I understand it 200 were made and then recalled... the factory got about 160 returned... 40 in the public domain still...
According to the "Remington 700" book by John Lacey, there was about 200 7mm-06 Remington's shipped in 1978.
In 1979 Remington increased the powder load of factory ammo and renamed it the 7 mm Remington Express.
Call it what you like, it's still the 280 Remington at the end of the day - but these different barrel stamps do make them somewhat unique..
In 1979 Remington increased the powder load of factory ammo and renamed it the 7 mm Remington Express.
Call it what you like, it's still the 280 Remington at the end of the day - but these different barrel stamps do make them somewhat unique..
