Seized Choke Tube

AdamRoby said:
Thanks for the feedback. I went to Sail today so I brought the shotgun with me. The closest match they had was an extended turkey invector choke (a Carlson). The threads don't line up perfectly, but it does screw in nicely to my shotgun and snugs up at the right place. Only problem is the $74.99 price tag (+ 15% tax here) - Ouch.

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Al's corner store has a flush mount Carlson for $30 + $10 shipping... I might try that one instead.

Thanks again.
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I'm mildly surprised that they staff of Sail didn't faint away dead when you brought your gun in, but no matter what happened I'm glad you're working out the best options.
 
Big Bad said:
I'm mildly surprised that they staff of Sail didn't faint away dead when you brought your gun in, but no matter what happened I'm glad you're working out the best options.
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Yeah, I did get some funny looks from people that were shopping for kids shoes and not even realizing they sold guns there. They did ask me to leave it on the counter when I went to the washroom, I guess that might look bad walking into a stall with one.
 
AdamRoby said:
Yeah, I did get some funny looks from people that were shopping for kids shoes and not even realizing they sold guns there. They did ask me to leave it on the counter when I went to the washroom, I guess that might look bad walking into a stall with one.
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What was wrong with just bringing in the barrel? Its all you needed.
 
I could have... but I figured why bother. I also wanted them to try the pump action, as I found it a bit stiff and sometimes almost jams up. Figure it's just new, with some usage it should improve.
 
Just to close the loop for anyone with a choke problem on the Hunt Group shotguns in the future, this was the reply from Al's Corner Store:

Al's Corner Store said:
With our experience the hunt group is using 2 choke systems in their firearms. the invector and the benelli moblie. If the barrel is threaded at the very end it would be the moblie if it in down the barrel it would be the invector.
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After sending him the picture of my choke, he confirmed it was the invector style and I will be ordering one later today. I'll send a quick update after I receive and try it out.
 
AdamRoby said:
Just to close the loop for anyone with a choke problem on the Hunt Group shotguns in the future, this was the reply from Al's Corner Store:



After sending him the picture of my choke, he confirmed it was the invector style and I will be ordering one later today. I'll send a quick update after I receive and try it out.
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Glad everything is working out for you. Hopefully that defective choke that swelled didn't #### up your barrel, and you'll be able to get many years of good use out of the shotgun!

And while it wasn't your issue today, Dont forget to pick up some anti-seize!
 
Its curious how anti-seize compound has become the internet go-to for choke tubes. It was designed for high temperature applications like engine head bolts, where grease would be inadequate. It contains fine particles of copper, aluminum, etc. that act to plate the threads and prevent seizing or galling. Its messy stuff to work with, and tends to "gum up" the fine choke threads and attract combustion grit.
I much prefer to lightly oil the threads, and the smooth choke body. It can be easily cleaned between sessions to get rid of any shooting grit. I also avoid overtightening the choke tubes, finger tight is fine. I havent had any problems in the last 25 years of shotgun shooting.
 
cosmic said:
Its curious how anti-seize compound has become the internet go-to for choke tubes. It was designed for high temperature applications like engine head bolts, where grease would be inadequate. It contains fine particles of copper, aluminum, etc. that act to plate the threads and prevent seizing or galling. Its messy stuff to work with, and tends to "gum up" the fine choke threads and attract combustion grit.
I much prefer to lightly oil the threads, and the smooth choke body. It can be easily cleaned between sessions to get rid of any shooting grit. I also avoid overtightening the choke tubes, finger tight is fine. I havent had any problems in the last 25 years of shotgun shooting.
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Unlike a thin oil, it helps to actually seal the choke threads from the HOT combustion gases, that the oil is not made to handle. I generally remove and clean/recoat the choke tubes in my shotguns with removable chokes once per year, and even after up to 5000 rounds, the choke tubes are easy to remove.
 
cosmic said:
Its curious how anti-seize compound has become the internet go-to for choke tubes. It was designed for high temperature applications like engine head bolts, where grease would be inadequate. It contains fine particles of copper, aluminum, etc. that act to plate the threads and prevent seizing or galling. Its messy stuff to work with, and tends to "gum up" the fine choke threads and attract combustion grit.
I much prefer to lightly oil the threads, and the smooth choke body. It can be easily cleaned between sessions to get rid of any shooting grit. I also avoid overtightening the choke tubes, finger tight is fine. I havent had any problems in the last 25 years of shotgun shooting.
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I agree. I love using anti-seize, but not on my choke tubes.

A few drops of synthetic oil does the trick for my guns
 
cosmic said:
Its curious how anti-seize compound has become the internet go-to for choke tubes. It was designed for high temperature applications like engine head bolts, where grease would be inadequate. It contains fine particles of copper, aluminum, etc. that act to plate the threads and prevent seizing or galling. Its messy stuff to work with, and tends to "gum up" the fine choke threads and attract combustion grit.
I much prefer to lightly oil the threads, and the smooth choke body. It can be easily cleaned between sessions to get rid of any shooting grit. I also avoid overtightening the choke tubes, finger tight is fine. I havent had any problems in the last 25 years of shotgun shooting.
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I oiled mine. And then it got stuck. Since I switched to anti seize I've had no more issues with stuck chokes. Thus, I know which method I'll continue using.

I don't remove and clean my choke every time I to shooting. Maybe that's the difference? I don't know. What I do know is anti seize is working for me. As for it being messy? You must be using a different product than me because I haven't had any concerns with mess.
 
Oil or grease is all I've ever used on choke tubes and I've never had one stuck. The only reason I switched to grease over oil is because the tubes don't back off even if they are only finger tight. Any time I hear guys using anti-seize I think of the messy as heck grey stuff we used to use in the shop years ago, maybe there's better stuff now but the old stuff was darn near impossible to clean off of anything!
 
Each to their own. In my case, I switch chokes often during the course of a day at the club, so they can be attended to, if needed. With my old can of anti-seize, this would be a messy proposition. Maybe there is new fangled no-mess stuff available now.
 
cosmic said:
Its curious how anti-seize compound has become the internet go-to for choke tubes. It was designed for high temperature applications like engine head bolts, where grease would be inadequate. It contains fine particles of copper, aluminum, etc. that act to plate the threads and prevent seizing or galling. Its messy stuff to work with, and tends to "gum up" the fine choke threads and attract combustion grit.
I much prefer to lightly oil the threads, and the smooth choke body. It can be easily cleaned between sessions to get rid of any shooting grit. I also avoid overtightening the choke tubes, finger tight is fine. I havent had any problems in the last 25 years of shotgun shooting.
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Not sure why anyone would use that nasty Sh#% very messy if changing chokes often on a sporting clay course.
 
cosmic said:
Each to their own. In my case, I switch chokes often during the course of a day at the club, so they can be attended to, if needed. With my old can of anti-seize, this would be a messy proposition. Maybe there is new fangled no-mess stuff available now.
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I use a stick of it, very similar to a glue stick. https://www.amazon.ca/Loctite-37617...ctite+silver+anti+seize&qid=1617062036&sr=8-1

Not messy at all. It's pretty thick stuff, more like a glue stick consistency than a liquid. I would think grease would be far more mess to deal with than this stuff.
 
Suther said:
I oiled mine. And then it got stuck. Since I switched to anti seize I've had no more issues with stuck chokes. Thus, I know which method I'll continue using.

I don't remove and clean my choke every time I to shooting. Maybe that's the difference? I don't know. What I do know is anti seize is working for me. As for it being messy? You must be using a different product than me because I haven't had any concerns with mess.
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When I did choke tube conversions many years ago, the company supplying the tubes also sold a very small squeeze bottle of anti seize with the recommendation to use it...

Never have ever seen a seized tube that had never seize on it...

As for being messy I think some people can't eat a peanut butter sandwich with getting it all over their face...
 
I started using anti seize on spark plugs. The anti seize I use on choke tubes is a refined version of the automotive stuff but I strongly believe in both. Oil and grease turn to a nearly unremovable varnish under high heat, anti seize does what it does. I don't know what this stuff about it making a mess comes from, quite the opposite if applied in sensible amounts, ie, lightly.
 
I use a Thompson Center ant-seize product on the breech plug of my muzzle loader called "Gorilla Grease". It comes in a little cup affair like lip balm. Not messy at all and smells like banana. Great stuff. Id expect it to work well on choke tubes but I haven't tried it. I just use oil and check them fairly regularly.

I suspect the issue in this thread has already been pinned down to an inferior choke tube.
 
Big Bad said:
I started using anti seize on spark plugs. The anti seize I use on choke tubes is a refined version of the automotive stuff but I strongly believe in both. Oil and grease turn to a nearly unremovable varnish under high heat, anti seize does what it does. I don't know what this stuff about it making a mess comes from, quite the opposite if applied in sensible amounts, ie, lightly.
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You must be using the wrong oil and grease. I use Amsoil synthetic grease and I normally clean and re-lube after every shoot but even if I leave it on for a long time and get the barrels really hot I've never seen it change from it's original state.
 
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