Must be nice!
Here in Alberta we just get the 30mins on each end of the day and frankly all my glass works fine during that amount of light but I can imagine going an hour before and after light things get rather dark and brighter optics are useful.
Sell me on a high end optic
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Must be nice!
Here in Alberta we just get the 30mins on each end of the day and frankly all my glass works fine during that amount of light but I can imagine going an hour before and after light things get rather dark and brighter optics are useful.
TT is still a runner up compare to a S&B, price wise. I have shot with a TT for a part of the summer, i dont see what they got over a PMll...
This is just me but i consider myself a pretty good judge... And we dont have no idea of their durability...JP.
This is just me but i consider myself a pretty good judge... And we dont have no idea of their durability...JP.
Here is a list of the scopes that the pros use nowadays. If you need a glass to shoot 2k and beyond, BEAST is probably one of the best with an unbeatable amount of elevation. Vortex and Kahles do not have Horus reticles but do have their own. SKMR3 with a floating central dot is one of the best if not the best reticle, IMHO. I had/have SB PMII H59 and K624i and I like Kahles more, though, some say its glass has CA. SB has a bit better glass but tunneling, reticle illumination, and clicks of the turrets are the peculiarities I didn't like. Additionally, Kahles offers a left side windage turret and this feature is not available from other manufacturers.
P.S. Omer from the Presicion Optics is an authorized dealers for SB and Kahles.
Good luck with your search!
P.S. Omer from the Presicion Optics is an authorized dealers for SB and Kahles.
Good luck with your search!
Isn't it funny that with most reviews people end up suggesting the units they own? Yes it's likely some may have owned and fully experienced all the options, but statistically people will always think what they have is best. Human nature these days.
So my response is, yes a quality optic is worth it. I can't recommend one because my experience with the available scopes isn't near good enough.
Asking info on the net is often worth what you paid for it.
So my response is, yes a quality optic is worth it. I can't recommend one because my experience with the available scopes isn't near good enough.
Asking info on the net is often worth what you paid for it.
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What chambering are you currently thinking?
Any thought on the bullet you want to use?
Jerry
I have owned most of these scopes, except the Beast and the TT, although a shooting buddy has the TT, and I have looked thru it several times but not enough to give it an overall impression with lots of use, but I don’t think the glass in the TT was any better then my Zeiss. Not a knock on the TT and don’t get me wrong though, both are amazing, and probably the best glass on the market right now, imho.
I am currently running 2 Nightforce 7x35 ATACRs and a Zeiss 4.8x35 Victory V8. Have owned 2 S&Bs, a Vortex Razor 2, Nightforce 5-25 and the Competition, and a Kahles. (Plus a number of the fine Sightron scopes from Jerry, when I was first getting into serious rifle builds on a tighter budget, and they are awesome for their price point). So feel like I have owned enough to give you my take.
Optically, nothing truly compares to the glass in the Zeiss, for the scopes I have owned, so if that is number one on your list, it’s my number one. My Schmidt’s were great all round, the Vortex was good but never wowed me for whatever reason?, Kahles was very good all round too.
I personally like the higher Mag scopes, as you can tell from what I currently own, and the new 7x35 ATACRs are in my opinion, the best all round scope, for the money, on the market right now. Not saying better then the TT, but super close and way cheaper. (Lol, if you call 4500$ cheaper). The Nightforce has good reticle choices, decent Zero Stop, great glass, good eye relief, very nice turrets, tons of elevation, and way cheaper then the TT. The 7-35 has better glass then my 5-25 too, to my eyes.
Hard to make a bad choice in this 3500-4500$ price range though, and I think specific feature sets of each scope and reticle choice which fits your exact needs, should be the ultimate factor for you, not just which one is “better”. I don’t think you’ll be sorry with any of the ones listed here.
Have never seen a Beast in the wild though, so no opinion on it.
I completely agree with my friend Jerry, that features to your specific rifle and purpose should be your best guide and will give you the best satisfaction with these choices.
Might want to talk to Jerry directly about it too, as I know he’s looked at most of the high end stuff, and also Omer at Plainsight has looked and handled so much top end gear, be great maybe for you to have a one on one phone call with those guys and hear their thoughts, as it’s hard to say everything on the forum, phone call is quicker. I’ve talked to both guys lots over the years and had long conversations about scopes for my rifles, and both had solid advice. Just my 2cents...
I am currently running 2 Nightforce 7x35 ATACRs and a Zeiss 4.8x35 Victory V8. Have owned 2 S&Bs, a Vortex Razor 2, Nightforce 5-25 and the Competition, and a Kahles. (Plus a number of the fine Sightron scopes from Jerry, when I was first getting into serious rifle builds on a tighter budget, and they are awesome for their price point). So feel like I have owned enough to give you my take.
Optically, nothing truly compares to the glass in the Zeiss, for the scopes I have owned, so if that is number one on your list, it’s my number one. My Schmidt’s were great all round, the Vortex was good but never wowed me for whatever reason?, Kahles was very good all round too.
I personally like the higher Mag scopes, as you can tell from what I currently own, and the new 7x35 ATACRs are in my opinion, the best all round scope, for the money, on the market right now. Not saying better then the TT, but super close and way cheaper. (Lol, if you call 4500$ cheaper). The Nightforce has good reticle choices, decent Zero Stop, great glass, good eye relief, very nice turrets, tons of elevation, and way cheaper then the TT. The 7-35 has better glass then my 5-25 too, to my eyes.
Hard to make a bad choice in this 3500-4500$ price range though, and I think specific feature sets of each scope and reticle choice which fits your exact needs, should be the ultimate factor for you, not just which one is “better”. I don’t think you’ll be sorry with any of the ones listed here.
Have never seen a Beast in the wild though, so no opinion on it.
I completely agree with my friend Jerry, that features to your specific rifle and purpose should be your best guide and will give you the best satisfaction with these choices.
Might want to talk to Jerry directly about it too, as I know he’s looked at most of the high end stuff, and also Omer at Plainsight has looked and handled so much top end gear, be great maybe for you to have a one on one phone call with those guys and hear their thoughts, as it’s hard to say everything on the forum, phone call is quicker. I’ve talked to both guys lots over the years and had long conversations about scopes for my rifles, and both had solid advice. Just my 2cents...
Our hunting regs allow shooting from one hour before sunrise until one hour after sunset. That means in August you can hunt almost 24 hours per day, and September you can still get 18 hours.
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