Until I built one I would have agreed with you, I have a semi 22 that has beat many single shot pure competition rifles costing a lot more than what I have in the 10-22. Mind you I am over the $1,000 part by 2.5 times....
Semi .22 capable of .5 MOA?
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Until I built one I would have agreed with you, I have a semi 22 that has beat many single shot pure competition rifles costing a lot more than what I have in the 10-22. Mind you I am over the $1,000 part by 2.5 times....
A gopher peeking out of its hole presents a target about 1/2" high and about 1" wide. If I'm shooting from 50 yards, 1 MOA is what it'll take to make that shot consistently.
Is it "necessary" that I make the shot? If I waited wouldn't the gopher present a better target? I want to make the shot, and that's a good enough reason to want a gun capable of it.
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1 inch at 50 is fairly easy. Marlin Model 60 or the 795 can do it all day for less than $200.
I picked .68 calibre paintballs off the 50-yard berm for fun with mine, with a cheapo Tasco 3-9x32 scope on top. Usually 8 hits in ten shots.
I picked .68 calibre paintballs off the 50-yard berm for fun with mine, with a cheapo Tasco 3-9x32 scope on top. Usually 8 hits in ten shots.
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I believe so. I also think they shoot their targets indoors with x32 scope.
1/2 MOA takes good technique and a well tuned rifle... But 1 MOA is attainable... pretty much every semi-auto build I have done got down below 0.5" @ 50 yards or it went down the road... "Jongun" questioned; "why a semi," and it was correctly answered; "because semis are more fun..." but the caveat to that is; they are more fun IF they are accurate... accuracy IS fun... shooting cow-pie groups is NOT fun, whether you are shooting a bolt or semi or lever or pump.
I am currently working with four semi builds, two Dlask DAR22's, a Kidd mutt and a VQ mutt... I can consistantly shoot 0.4" five shot groups with all of them (with their preferred ammo)... I have shot MANY 1/2 MOA groups with my semi's, but certainly not consistently (I shoot thousands of rounds a year). Accuracy is relative to your expectations... a competetive shooter would be disgusted with 1 MOA, but many casual hunters would be thrilled to death... I do have a higher expectation for my bolt rifles, so that says something.
I am currently working with four semi builds, two Dlask DAR22's, a Kidd mutt and a VQ mutt... I can consistantly shoot 0.4" five shot groups with all of them (with their preferred ammo)... I have shot MANY 1/2 MOA groups with my semi's, but certainly not consistently (I shoot thousands of rounds a year). Accuracy is relative to your expectations... a competetive shooter would be disgusted with 1 MOA, but many casual hunters would be thrilled to death... I do have a higher expectation for my bolt rifles, so that says something.
Actually the guarantee is 1/4" for five shots at 50 yards for the Coopers in 22lr. That works out to 1/2MOA.
Below are a couple of 10 shot 50 yard groups from my Volquartsen. However the cost is double what the OP wants to pay.
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I don't know what their benchmark set-up is... but that is very doable at 25 yards indoors in a contrilloed environment... any experienced shooter will tell you that most environments are neither controlled nor static... 1/4" @ 25 does not necessarily mean 1/2" @ 50 or 1" @ 100 or 2" @ 200... the intangibles begin to apply their effects to a great degree as "time in flight" is increased... and the effects are cumulative.
The Cooper guarantee is 1/4" for five shots at 50 yards(1/2MOA), not 1/4" at 25 yards(MOA).
I didn't say it was 1/4" @ 25... I said that I didn't know what it is... my point was that static/controlled conditions are rarely replicated in the environments that most people shoot in, and as the yardage increases so do the effects of the factors that erode accuracy... I know that you are a Cooper fan, and they are fine rifles... but you and I know that 1/2 MOA is beyond the capability of most "shooters".... not most guns.
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There's lots of .22's that will do 1" at 50 yards, as long as the shooter can do it as well. At 3x even my little Plinkster will do that (as long as I wasn't up too late the night before....
). At 100 yds, maybe 50 years ago - now.........meh.....not so much......
). At 100 yds, maybe 50 years ago - now.........meh.....not so much......Oh yeah
my stock 10-22 with iron sights shoots .15" at 100yards all day every day no matter the weather. I also shoot squirrels at 500yrds. i like to time my shots between eye lid blinks to save that sweet eye lid fillets. All done with CCI stingers.
my stock 10-22 with iron sights shoots .15" at 100yards all day every day no matter the weather. I also shoot squirrels at 500yrds. i like to time my shots between eye lid blinks to save that sweet eye lid fillets. All done with CCI stingers.
