Semi auto 30-06 hunting rifles

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I am having quite a time finding the accurate hunting handload for a Voere 2185 sporting rifle in 30-06.
Not many factory loads shoot well in this 19 inch barreled carbine. Only the 150 gr Federal 30-06 match ammo, made specifically for the M1.
Had some success with 155 Scenars at Garand pressures, but just another paper target bullet of course.

Was wondering what you folks use in your 30-06 BARs, Benelli R1s or Remington 742s? (bullet weight of 125-168 grain)

My long term wish is to use 125-150 grain Accubonds for deer and black bear. Experimenting with Nosler BTs until I get my paws on Accubonds.

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My BAR shoots ok with 180 factory ammo. About 1.5" at 100. I haven't loaded for it yet myself but I will be playing with it this winter. I have read a few times that the bars like 165 grain bullets over 180 grain bullets. as far as powder I am not sure for the auto's - my bolt loved RL-22 but I sold that one.
 
I load for the -06 BAR with normal dies, has a fairly tight chamber compared to my Mauser, but no need for small base dies IME.
 
I have since retired my 740 carbine, 30.06, but it last shot 165 grain Federal Fusion's really well (about an inch @ 50 yards which is "eastern deer range") - at least better than I could shoot.

I never spent time trying to work a load for that rifle which was 1) finicky and 2) notoriously "not accurate" once you tried to push it past 100 yards.
 
I have never owned a remington. Have had a alot of Bar. The common thing to remember about loading for all of these is that they do not have a lot of camming force in cycling cartridges. If you have a problem with FTE or FTload my guess would be oversized brass. Some advocate using small base dies.

These are designed for standard factory ammo, not mega overloads, save those for a tough bolt action if you must. Better yet buy a 300wm. If one was using brass shot with the rifle and not loaded over, most of the problems would go away.

Personally i have never had a problem with my Bars. I load some average velocity cartridges in a good accurate sweet spot and dont expect either bolt action accuracy or 300wm power.
 
Got a 740 and a 742 in 30-06.

Mine are easy to feed.

SST's in the 165 -180 grain variety, 180 grain Win PP's, 165 grain Speer RN, 210 grain Berger, you name it, over whatever powder suits the bullet weights. Accuracy is almost always under 1.5", which is fine with me.

I tend to use 180 grain Win PP's the most, as I got a bunch of them cheap several years ago when our dollar was worth more than the U.S dollar, and they have shot well out of every single .30 cal rifle I ever tried them in.

PS - In my experience, BAR's need small base dies (They will often shoot with regular dies, but accuracy is poor as they WILL fire slightly out of battery.), but Remington semi-auto's do not need small base dies.
 
nowarningshot said:
I have never owned a remington. Have had a alot of Bar. The common thing to remember about loading for all of these is that they do not have a lot of camming force in cycling cartridges. If you have a problem with FTE or FTload my guess would be oversized brass. Some advocate using small base dies.

These are designed for standard factory ammo, not mega overloads, save those for a tough bolt action if you must. Better yet buy a 300wm. If one was using brass shot with the rifle and not loaded over, most of the problems would go away.

Personally i have never had a problem with my Bars. I load some average velocity cartridges in a good accurate sweet spot and dont expect either bolt action accuracy or 300wm power.
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The Voere 2185 is available in 300 Win Mag. But I dread the assault on my nearby ears of a 21 inch barrel and this belted magnum.

Got the 30-06 instead. Still have to contend with a 19 inch barrel though!
 
Brutus said:
Unfortunately my Voere rifle demands full length sizing.
This is very unusual for a deer hunting rifle iMO.

but there it is
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My girlfriends BAR has a nice tight chamber, but FL dies are all that is needed for it to fit and cycle properly, but not Small Base dies. My JC Higgins on the other hand has a generous chamber, however is much more accurate.
 
^Sorry for the confusion from me. My rifle needs small base dies properly adjusted for proper function of home rolled handloads.

And Winchester 180 grain PPs beat the hell out of this rifle and groups them like a shotgun pattern of buckshot. It is one grumpy little European rifle! lol
 
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