semi auto open bolt sten build

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There is absolutely nothing wrong with going it alone. But when the hoped for outcome is to get the thing cleanly registered, it could be a lot faster to use an already accepted system.
 
hedgehog said:
how did you register the receiver , with your design not being approved as of yet. id like to do the same.

did you take yours to the range yet? is that allowed. im guessing if its registered and your have an att your golden?
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The RCMP advised me, in writing, to register is as an SAS-3 sten receiver and requested a formal submission of my design on paper. If it gets approved, they will issue a brand new FRT number and permit me to complete the build.

And I would not recommend anyone bring an SAS-3 receiver to the range with a non-SAS-3 firing mechanism. Maybe you would be OK, maybe not. I wouldn't risk it PERSONALLY.

As of 3 weeks ago when I spoke personally with George Fraser at the CFO, there were no approved FRT numbers for open-bolt guns, only closed-bolt stens. As I stated many times, I would give a left nut to know what FRT and FIN these "approved" open-bolt stens use as the maker has repeatdly refused to offer comment - so much so he was banned for probable illegal activity.

'nuff said.
 
I called George Fraser last week. ######## ( there is a clue in that name as to what he makes ) and I assume it's the same guy, is a bonafide manufacturer.
That's good enough for me. There are TWO sten manufacturers in Saskatchewan.
 
well whats good enough for you, isnt for me. and for that matter Claven2. building a sten that doesnt match its FRT# is not my intention, and would seem it is illegal.
 
Claven2 said:
The RCMP advised me, in writing, to register is as an SAS-3 sten receiver and requested a formal submission of my design on paper. If it gets approved, they will issue a brand new FRT number and permit me to complete the build.

And I would not recommend anyone bring an SAS-3 receiver to the range with a non-SAS-3 firing mechanism. Maybe you would be OK, maybe not. I wouldn't risk it PERSONALLY.

As of 3 weeks ago when I spoke personally with George Fraser at the CFO, there were no approved FRT numbers for open-bolt guns, only closed-bolt stens. As I stated many times, I would give a left nut to know what FRT and FIN these "approved" open-bolt stens use as the maker has repeatdly refused to offer comment - so much so he was banned for probable illegal activity.

'nuff said.
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Thanks for the no non scene answer. ill give em another call again on monday and get something on paper.
 
smoocher said:
... and I assume it's the same guy, is a bonafide manufacturer...
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By bona fide manufacturer, I suppose you mean the holder of a business licence.
There doesn't seem to be a business telephone number.
Does he have comprehensive liability insurance? A demonstrable, documented system of quality control? Apart from plinking in his backyard? Does his insurance carrier know that the breech mechanism and fire control groups - pretty important parts in any firearm - use welded over 65 year old parts, of unknown metallurgy, originally made with less than exemplary quality control?
Does he even own a set of headspace gauges?

There is no point bothering George with questions about a business. It would be more appropriate to direct any questions or concerns about the legitimacy of a business to the Saskatchewan CFO - who, after all, is responsible for the issuing of business licences in SK.
 
He told me he has a manufacturers licence, is a business licence the same thing ? I have his phone number. I can't answer any of the other questions as I don't know the answers.
All I know is that the stens that were on sale at the Regina gun show looked very well made and were what I had wanted for for a long time. I have paid a deposit on a MKII. I don't know if the guy at Regina ( ######## ) was the same guy you are talking about.
 
If you go ahead with the purchase, make sure that the gun is not registered using FRT # 126844-1. If that is the number, the registration could be considered to be fraudulent.
 
I had not heard of an FRT # until recently and managed just fine and dandy.
As long as I get the gun I ordered, and a registration document arrives with my name on it, that's all I care about.
 
I don't know why but I get the feeling that several people here are jealous of the guy that is making my MkII.
 
"It is an offence under Section 106 of the Firearms Act to knowingly make a false or misleading statement, either orally or in writing, or to knowingly fail to disclose relevant information, for the purpose of obtaining a registration certificate."
 
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