Semi~Auto or Bolt action for hunting?

i have heard that semis can freeze up in the winter.. maybe just a myth?

Maybe, but maybe not. Depending on what type of lubricant you use, the cold weather can cause it to gum up. Any firearm is potentially vulnerable to having it happen, but manually operated gun usually survive it a bit better since you can power through the stiffness easier than your gas system can exert more pressure or your spring exert more force.

Grease especially can thicken up and basically turn into tar in cold weather.

A properly maintained semiauto gun can be one of the most reliable systems in existence, you just need to adapt it to your environment and that might require switching ammunition or lubricant or even different springs.
It's like how you can talk to five people about the best way to lubricate an AR15 and you'll get five different answers and three of them will conflict the others. The guys in humid regions will tell you to pour buckets of lube in there and chrome plate everything or it'll rust, the guys in sandy environments will tell you to lube sparingly, the guys in the arctic may very well tell you to not use any lube at all and to use magnum primers.

It also plays a big part in why rumors go around about certain guns not being suited for certain environments, and why in some cases high quality guns have more malfunctions than low quality ones. If you have tight tolerances, and suddenly your lube is now many times more viscous, your gun might malfunction more often than a cheap counterpart that hasn't seen any lube in months and has loose tolerances.

Just like how you may very well have to rezero your rifle if you go hunt mountain sheep, so too might you have to switch up your cleaning and lubrication schedule and technique. I think in some cases where a guy gets fantastic accuracy and performance out of his century old, beaten up rifle. Then he takes it to a different place to visit some people and the accuracy goes all to hell and he sounds like a liar.
 
I have a buddy I will be hunting with who doe's not want me to use a semi~auto for hunting (deer, elk, moose,,,) and wants me to only use a bolt action for safety reasons (reasoning was that a semi~auto automatically reloads and poses a safety issue) doe's anybody have any experience with this situation?

Thanks in advance for your input, cheers

If 35 plus years has taught me anything is to make sure my firearm is cleaned oiled and sighted in properly .Another huge thing is to ENSURE that you previously cycle every bullet you tend to take on that hunt , handload or factory I cannot stress this point enough ,thanks
 
If 35 plus years has taught me anything is to make sure my firearm is cleaned oiled and sighted in properly .Another huge thing is to ENSURE that you previously cycle every bullet you tend to take on that hunt , handload or factory I cannot stress this point enough ,thanks

Very good point, nothing worse than having game in front of you, going to chamber a round and not being able to get it to chamber due to improper trimming or something similair.
 
That is dumb, wont hunt with you if you use a semi-auto? Sounds like he needs better fire arms trainning. I would tell him to get better fire arms trainning so he can hunt with you. What a ####.
 
If 35 plus years has taught me anything is to make sure my firearm is cleaned oiled and sighted in properly .Another huge thing is to ENSURE that you previously cycle every bullet you tend to take on that hunt , handload or factory I cannot stress this point enough ,thanks

Thanks for that reply freebore, it makes perfect sense to cycle every round you'll be using when hunting,,, Having only ever used factory ammo, for hunting I figured I was good to go (after confirming the ammunition was of the correct type for my chosen firearm & game of course) now I know better,,, Cheers
 
as a youngster I started off with a 30-06 semi auto as my hunting rifle, after that I have used just about everything there is, and now my next hunting rifle is gonna be Shortrax s/a. I just can't make up my mind if it should be in 308 or 7mm-08.
 
Okay thanks all for the informative replies everyone,,,
I spoke with my buddy today and the reasons he or anyone he knows do not use semi~auto's in a hunting situation is because of the autoloading action of a semi~auto,,,

He felt due to the auto loading action after a shot has been made and that we will be hunting in rugged and difficult terrain it's unnerving for him/his companions to walk with the firearm loaded automatically during a hunt or after a kill when the safety of the rifle may have been forgotten to be applied due to the fact adrenaline can affect hunters in different ways,,,

Also when he and his hunting companions confirm the animal is permanently down they unload their bolt action rifles and make safe (when not in grizzly/brown bear country),,,

I recognize some may not agree with this thinking while others will, I have chosen to acquire a bolt action rifle for hunting as I believe a bolt is more reliable/accurate and due to the respect and friendship I have for my buddy, along with his vastly greater experience hunting I'm more then willing to comply with his request for a bolt only hunt,,,

Thanks again to all those that replied and helped me gather my thoughts on this topic, your input assisted me in making an informed decision,,,

Cheers All:)
 
Wow, thats different. I would figure it would be the reliability issue.

X2... Also, if you are coming hunting wit me, please don't tell me one of my rifles is not acceptable to you, it will get things off to a bad start...I am much more concerned about guys who insist on hunting drunk, but that is another thread...
 
Okay thanks all for the informative replies everyone,,,
I spoke with my buddy today and the reasons he or anyone he knows do not use semi~auto's in a hunting situation is because of the autoloading action of a semi~auto,,,

He felt due to the auto loading action after a shot has been made and that we will be hunting in rugged and difficult terrain it's unnerving for him/his companions to walk with the firearm loaded automatically during a hunt or after a kill when the safety of the rifle may have been forgotten to be applied due to the fact adrenaline can affect hunters in different ways,,,

Also when he and his hunting companions confirm the animal is permanently down they unload their bolt action rifles and make safe (when not in grizzly/brown bear country),,,

I recognize some may not agree with this thinking while others will, I have chosen to acquire a bolt action rifle for hunting as I believe a bolt is more reliable/accurate and due to the respect and friendship I have for my buddy, along with his vastly greater experience hunting I'm more then willing to comply with his request for a bolt only hunt,,,

Thanks again to all those that replied and helped me gather my thoughts on this topic, your input assisted me in making an informed decision,,,

Cheers All:)
you could always just put one round in the gun to make him happy if all you have is a semi right now. If I bought a different gun every time a hunting partner had a problem with what I use i'd be broke and have a bunch of guns I don't like/never will use.
 
you could always just put one round in the gun to make him happy if all you have is a semi right now. If I bought a different gun every time a hunting partner had a problem with what I use i'd be broke and have a bunch of guns I don't like/never will use.

This fellow is a good friend and I'm purchasing a rifle so we can go hunting together (he will be the only person I will be hunting with),,, My original thoughts were leaning towards a semi~auto (Kel Tec RFB ,308 Win, or FNH FNAR ,308 Win,) but am now seriously thinking of buying a Ruger Gunsite Scout (bolt action) in ,308 Win, as I do not mind using a bolt but had not heard of this issue before (no semi~auto's for hunting due to safety concerns),,,

Thanks for your reply
 
That's odd, any experienced hunter I've ever met does one thing immedietly after taking a shot. That is, rapidly cycles another round back into the chamber in case a follow up shot is needed.
 
I spoke with my buddy today and the reasons he or anyone he knows do not use semi~auto's in a hunting situation is because of the autoloading action of a semi~auto,,,

He felt due to the auto loading action after a shot has been made and that we will be hunting in rugged and difficult terrain it's unnerving for him/his companions to walk with the firearm loaded automatically during a hunt or after a kill when the safety of the rifle may have been forgotten to be applied due to the fact adrenaline can affect hunters in different ways,,,

Also when he and his hunting companions confirm the animal is permanently down they unload their bolt action rifles and make safe (when not in grizzly/brown bear country),,,
Not trying to poke any fun, but this sounds like religious hunting. I've just never seen such strictness during hunting. When can you actually load the rifle?
Does everyone check each others rifles and confirm the chamber is empty? Now, that reminds me of DCRA shooting ranges.
 
That's odd, any experienced hunter I've ever met does one thing immedietly after taking a shot. That is, rapidly cycles another round back into the chamber in case a follow up shot is needed.

This would be the case with my friend (automatically reloading another round after a shot has been made on game), however I think he believes a bolt is safer because a person has to consciously load another round versus it automatically happening,,, It would be only when the animal is known to be permanently down would the rifles be unloaded and making safe of the firearms would be confirmed by words,,,
 
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