I think it could be legally activated as a semi auto. There have been recent notices SAYING they are not to be modified but I think that is not a law. If a deac is NOT a firearm then it is just a collection of wood and steel. IF it is just wood and steel than you can turn it into a firearm.
Semi auto RPD ?
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Building a legal semi auto out of a properly deactivated gun is a rather inefficient way of doing things, it seems.
If it costs you $3995 just for the parts set, then you throw away the now deact receiver and machine a brand new one from scratch, thats gonna get costly.
Especially when the deact process probably involved drilling and welding the barrel and grinding the face of the bolt.
Having said that, I suspect (weasel words again, not meant to be legal advice) that it would be legal to do so.
If it costs you $3995 just for the parts set, then you throw away the now deact receiver and machine a brand new one from scratch, thats gonna get costly.
Especially when the deact process probably involved drilling and welding the barrel and grinding the face of the bolt.
Having said that, I suspect (weasel words again, not meant to be legal advice) that it would be legal to do so.
I doubt it .LOL
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My SAS-3 closed bolt Sten set me back about $800 in parts/bits.
That said, I spent about 100 hours building it.
So, $10/hr, plus $800 in parts/etc makes $1800 almost sound reasonable.
But, if I'd had a real milling machine at the time, as opposed to the little Sherline I was running, I could have spent about 80% less time machining....so that's 20 hours of shop/machine time. Which gives you $50/hr....
*shrug*
Either way, a semi-auto RPD from a certain manufacturer is likely to end up stuck in "inspection" for a long time....unless he's unwilling to let them inspect it. In which case, buyer beware!
NS
That said, I spent about 100 hours building it.
So, $10/hr, plus $800 in parts/etc makes $1800 almost sound reasonable.
But, if I'd had a real milling machine at the time, as opposed to the little Sherline I was running, I could have spent about 80% less time machining....so that's 20 hours of shop/machine time. Which gives you $50/hr....
*shrug*
Either way, a semi-auto RPD from a certain manufacturer is likely to end up stuck in "inspection" for a long time....unless he's unwilling to let them inspect it. In which case, buyer beware!
NS
DGAF is now pink as he is a returned banned member.
(returned far too many times to count...)
For the guys that have built and submitted various types of semi autos to the RCMP tech lab, can you fill us in on what to expect?
It seems as Mick/Sask/Spencer/DGAF/etc.. has sort of fooked it up for other Stengun builds.
--How about other types of builds? Are they also held up for years while tech lab sits on your project?
--How about AR-15 80% builds? Or AR-15 receivers milled from a solid block of Aluminum?
--How about a completely new design, not based on anything ever made before? Would it be sat on for years also?
(returned far too many times to count...)
For the guys that have built and submitted various types of semi autos to the RCMP tech lab, can you fill us in on what to expect?
It seems as Mick/Sask/Spencer/DGAF/etc.. has sort of fooked it up for other Stengun builds.
--How about other types of builds? Are they also held up for years while tech lab sits on your project?
--How about AR-15 80% builds? Or AR-15 receivers milled from a solid block of Aluminum?
--How about a completely new design, not based on anything ever made before? Would it be sat on for years also?
I did a little looking, as this thread got me interested.
Internally machined receiver blanks are sold in the US for US$340
.prexis.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=P&Product_Code=RMB&Category_Code=R
Almost new high quality Polish kits sell for US$335
ht tp://e-sarcoinc.com/rpdpartskitwobarrel.aspx
As someone above noted, US law now requires the barrel not be workable. So a replacement barrel would need to be sourced. Canada has no such rule, so the original barrel would be fine.
As well, some internal parts would need to be reworked or replaced, to prevent FA fire.
Internally machined blank -------$340
parts kit --------- $335
fire control parts ----------$200????????????
External machining of rec. ------$?????????????
Could this be done for $1500 or $2000? The external machining cost is the wild card.
So,,,, could a Canadian machine shop step up and build the receiver for a moderate cost? Cheap enough to sell lots, enough to spread the cost around. But still leave room for a worthwhile profit margin.?
Prexis has done the CAD drawings for the remainder of the machining.
http://www.prexis.com/Merchant2/mer...tore_Code=P&Product_Code=RRCD&Category_Code=R
EDIT Just to clarify, I included US prices as a comparison only. DEFINITELY NOT suggesting that anyone smuggle MG parts out of the US !!!
Internally machined receiver blanks are sold in the US for US$340
.prexis.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=P&Product_Code=RMB&Category_Code=R
Almost new high quality Polish kits sell for US$335
ht tp://e-sarcoinc.com/rpdpartskitwobarrel.aspx
As someone above noted, US law now requires the barrel not be workable. So a replacement barrel would need to be sourced. Canada has no such rule, so the original barrel would be fine.
As well, some internal parts would need to be reworked or replaced, to prevent FA fire.
Internally machined blank -------$340
parts kit --------- $335
fire control parts ----------$200????????????
External machining of rec. ------$?????????????
Could this be done for $1500 or $2000? The external machining cost is the wild card.
So,,,, could a Canadian machine shop step up and build the receiver for a moderate cost? Cheap enough to sell lots, enough to spread the cost around. But still leave room for a worthwhile profit margin.?
Prexis has done the CAD drawings for the remainder of the machining.
http://www.prexis.com/Merchant2/mer...tore_Code=P&Product_Code=RRCD&Category_Code=R
EDIT Just to clarify, I included US prices as a comparison only. DEFINITELY NOT suggesting that anyone smuggle MG parts out of the US !!!
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Personally it seems more economical to have the machining done ex juris ( perhaps in Poland?) and Then import complete semi auto guns, but there may legal reasons to build the receivers here...
Does anyone know what the ruling on belts is?
Does anyone know what the ruling on belts is?
