Semi Auto Shotgun Secret!

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I was reading an article in The Firing Line forums about semiauto shotgun maintenance. I came acroos this quote from a very experienced clays shooter/waterfowler who was talking some newbies through takedown and cleaning procedures."Now one of the best kept secrets on lubing a Semi- Auto Shotgun - Use Automatic Transmisson Fluid (ATF) I am dead serious". First I've heard of this but hell I'm gonna try it!
 
its very close to what ATF is designed for.

in fact its been a key ingredient in 'Ed's Red' recipe for years.
the innovative 'Ed' is credited for the shocking, amazing discovery that ATF is an ideal lubricant/detergent/anti-wear agent for metals. imagine that :rolleyes:
 
home.comcast.net/~dsmjd/tux/dsmjd/tech/eds_red.htm
its generally thinned out, read the above article.

also be very careful with ATF - im pretty sure it is slightly acidic. wont harm aluminum or steels (transmission housings are aluminum), but it might harm finishes (painted aluminum?) and it certainly will (over time) dissolve natural fiber clothing if you drip it on it.
 
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Ive been using 2 stroke oil, it pours great in winter. Theres a big difference. I use to get the odd not cycle and hammer not hit hard enough then came the 2 stroke and it's never missed a beat, I clean it after every 50 or so shots.
 
Lubrication is lubrication. It all works to one extent or another.

To suggest tranny fluid is some sort of "best kept secret" that will magically transform a gun is nonsense.

I'm not sure what the benefit of using it might be when there are a variety of proven products on the market.
 
Claybuster said:
Lubrication is lubrication. It all works to one extent or another.

To suggest tranny fluid is some sort of "best kept secret" that will magically transform a gun is nonsense.

I'm not sure what the benefit of using it might be when there are a variety of proven products on the market.
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Great another know it all. "nonsense" lol :runaway:
 
If you think lubrication is lubrication, swap your transmission and engine oil. Then come back here and tell us how many hours your engine lasted for!

Given the requirements of gun lubrication I can see how something like ATF would work alright. So would two cycle oil, and a handful of other products. Heck, even gun lube would work!
 
Shrek said:
If you think lubrication is lubrication, swap your transmission and engine oil. Then come back here and tell us how many hours your engine lasted for!

Given the requirements of gun lubrication I can see how something like ATF would work alright. So would two cycle oil, and a handful of other products. Heck, even gun lube would work!
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Yeah, but have you ever seen a firearm maufacturer recommend the use of ATF?

Huh. Me neither......
 
Shrek said:
If you think lubrication is lubrication, swap your transmission and engine oil. Then come back here and tell us how many hours your engine lasted for!

Given the requirements of gun lubrication I can see how something like ATF would work alright. So would two cycle oil, and a handful of other products. Heck, even gun lube would work!
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There's a significant difference between the lubrication requirements of an engine and a firearm. But as you note given the requirements of gun lubrication ATF and other products would and do work.

But it's a long way from some "best kept secret." It's just another lubricant.
 
Aubie, the only person that was a "secret" to is you and the fool that wrote that in the first place.

As for the rest of the world: we know, thanks.

ATF makes a decent semi-auto lube. So does heavy-weight motor oil. Especially the synthetic kind :wink:

Some folks swear by grease, not oil.

Some folks actually make up recipes for their concoctions.

Ed's Red being a premium example.

None of this is a secret.

It's only secret to YOU.

But thanks for unearthing a commonly known fact and breathlessly announcing it on this forum.

My life...

...is now complete.

Or not. I still have a few farts to get out.
 
There is no magic oil imo.

It makes more of a difference how well and how often I clean my guns rather than what oil I use afterwards. If the gun is clogged with old dirt, no oil will magically make it perform at 100%.

"Cleaning" to some people still means adding extra oil to the bolt/chamber/slide, then putting the gun away until next usage. If you don't take the gun apart and clean it, all you're doing is building up more abrasive sludge.

What's funny is even if a gun is horrible neglected and obviously has never been cleaned, for some reason people refuse to admit it. Blaming oil/wd-40/god is a lot easier than admitting they're too lazy to disassemble their firearms and give them a good scrubbing.

Sure most of my buddies use high end gun oil recommended by 2 out of 3 I-RaQ vets, but I haven't seen any difference in performance between those oils and cheap synthetic gear/synthetic engine oil. If a $100,000 vehicle can use it, my firearms should be ok.
 
spi said:
Aubie, the only person that was a "secret" to is you and the fool that wrote that in the first place.

As for the rest of the world: we know, thanks.

ATF makes a decent semi-auto lube. So does heavy-weight motor oil. Especially the synthetic kind :wink:

Some folks swear by grease, not oil.

Some folks actually make up recipes for their concoctions.

Ed's Red being a premium example.

None of this is a secret.

It's only secret to YOU.

But thanks for unearthing a commonly known fact and breathlessly announcing it on this forum.

My life...

...is now complete.

Or not. I still have a few farts to get out.
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whammy said:
spi, you're a douchebag. Nuff Said.
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Between these two posts, I would say there is some solid gold action here.:D:D:D

TDC
 
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