Semi auto ww2 Guns

I've got a vopo and a original K43 and a vopo is a great entry k43. And one you could shoot without a huge worry. But put a shooters kit in it and new springs. Expect to pay $2000-2500 in canada. Try to get one with original german wood. Lots have post war wood.

Original ones in canada are scarce. And $$$. A nice untouched k43 in the US is easier to find but still lots of money.

I just bought an unissued ac45 K43, all correct and unissued. D block, end of the end. It cost a lot, even in the USA.
 
a g43 as a lotto win gun if I won the lottery it would be a Russian t-34 and then maybe a British double rifle

I never said that I would only buy one gun if I won the lotto, just that the G43 would be "a lotto win gun"... One of many...
 
I wonder what the reliability of the gewehr 43 was like if they were over built like a tiger tank maybe they also had the same reliability(next to none)
Not overbuilt, over engineered. Far too complex, with pieces that aren't needed. Reliability actually suffered because of it. When you hold one you can see why they lost the war!
 
I had a Kar-43 once upon a time, many moons ago.

It had rather a voracious appetite and was somewhat enthusiastic as to tossing its brass away (mutilated it nearly as badly as a '42).

The good points were that it ran fine in almost any weather and would actually function with ammunition which was very much under-pressure.

When you understand how it was built and why it was built that way, it starts becoming difficult to identify "unnecessary" parts.

I think it's just fine the way it is.

Lever used to have a rack of them at $60, unfired. Garands were $65 in good condition, Kar 98ks went for $27.50, so there is the comparison, 1966 style.
 
Not overbuilt, over engineered. Far too complex, with pieces that aren't needed. Reliability actually suffered because of it. When you hold one you can see why they lost the war!

The K43 didn't lose them the war. They aren't quite that bad. Lol. They were over gassed to the point of it being a negative but as smellie said, in the short term they functioned on anything anywhere.

Their design is a bit elegant and complex yes, but that's the german way. Compare a 1985 Mercedes to a 1985 Chevy. Lol.

They are a great looking gun, fun to shoot, fun to take apart. The best nettle rifle ever? No, the worst ever, no.
 
Canadian AR has some great points.

If you want a non VOPO G/K43 - almost cheaper to import from the US. Better pricing and more examples, Canadian AR and agentcq have done this - as well as others.

The rifle didn't lose the was due to function/reliability - but perhaps led to a speedier defeat. The problem was in 1940-42 the German Arms industry had at least 3x mass produced semi-auto/full auto 'rifles' competing for resources at the same time - not a bright idea in the middle of a war. FG42 - Luftwaffe design, G41-G/K43 and the Mkhb(42) and MP43/44/STG44 lineage of rifles. At the same time they were also trying to meet K98 production.

In my opinion the FG42 and MP44 were way better than the G series rifles. If the war had gone longer I am sure the G series rifles would have been a footnote in the war and production wouldn't have lasted much longer. The FG42 was also very expensive so the MP series probably would have won the competition and made the biggest impact in the war.

There were many reasons for this diversion of resources. Goering wanted his own rifle, Hitler initially disliked the idea of a select fire weapon which hindered the production of MP rifles and the G rifles were developed as an afterthought so to speak. Even the thought of changing the names of rifles as often as they did was a waste of resources (Mkb42, MP43, MP44, STG44) - changing out stamps takes times - let alone the time to write and process orders - days of production would have been lost just in changing the name of a rifle. Its a good thing the Nazi's were somewhat crazy or they possibly could have one the war.

The Soviets did the right thing. Had a bolt rifle, tried a semi, realized a bolt rifle with the intermediate PPSH was better/cheaper and more expedient. As a result - not as many resources wasted, more rifles and machine pistols on the front lines killing Nazi's. Problem solved.
 
Wow guys, I'm not saying this rifle lost the war for the nazis. It is a great example Of why. They over did everything, too much precision, maching, engineering went In to everything they did.
 
I have handled both G41 and W41 as well as G43 and K43, and shot the K43 as well. I never felt the quality of the 43 series was up the the same quality of the 41 series or even a Garand. I also found the the 43 series was very hard on brass, so don't expect to get a lot of use from your brass.

Then there is the issue of replacement parts. There is a word for this Unobtainium. There is a reason why these rifles are so expensive. Highly collectible, rare, and very hard to get replacement parts for.
 
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