Semi-ingenuous design
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Mike Oxbig
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You owe us One ingenious design! Now make with it!
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This thread sure has some intelligent design...
Sorry for the delay...
I was trying figure-out how to secure a spare BFG female strap connector (for my SOC-C sling) to the most forward position on my fixed-buttstock Stag AR ... in order to try the single-point sling option.
http://www.oneshottactical.com/merc...Product_Code=SL-SOC-C-S&Category_Code=SL-BFGA
In most cases the charging handle will bind on any thick webbing wrapped around the stock at that point.
Tango Down makes a cool $US 60 steel mount that solves the problem nicely http://www.blueforcegear.com/product.cfm?type=cat&cat_id=&prod_id=57 ... but I'm frugal.
Even though I was using a single layer of 1.5" relatively-thin genuine nylon (strong) webbing (secured with a Fastex TriGlide connector around that part of the buttstock) to attach the BFG female strap connector, the AR's charging handle was very close to binding on the webbing when the webbing would narrow and scrunch upwards under the weight of the rifle.
So, I set aside the webbing for a minute (more about that later) and (I know it sounds low-tech) taped-on the connector (through its adjustable loop) using two half-overlapping wraps of ugly white 1" Fiberglas-reinforced tape ... wicked-strong stuff.
The "scrunching-up" problem was solved completely by threading the Fiberglas tape through a thin 1.5" steel TriGlide-like thingy (also called a Linal metal slide) that I poked/placed sideways (inline with the direction of the connector) into the connector's adjustable snugged-to-fit-tight loop. It worked ... the connector was solidly in the proper spot ... and nothing stretched or scrunched or moved under the weight of the rifle.
But it looked like half-fast design, with that ugly overlapping white Fiberglas tape. So I just (simply) wrapped the aforementioned cut-to-just-fit 1.5" black nylon webbing around/over the white tape (covering it totally) and secured it with its TriGlide ... which is sewn to one end. Simple.
The tolerances are very close, but this cosmetic cover-up does not block the charging handle (it can now be operated easily because of the new zero-scrunch factor) ... but (with its TriGlide connector optionally situated strategically right behind the charging handle ... as opposed to against the stock) I can also see it almost as an additional safety that can be removed in a few seconds before firing. Cheap enough to discard ... and in a real-life urgent and / or fast-developing situation it certainly would not be on the firearm.
(A quick-release Fastex buckle might be better ... faster but bulkier ... but this stuff works and it is all I have right now.)
The setup is solid, removable, looks sanitary / clean-and-smooth ... and is cheap (basically just the primo $10.95 cost of the BFG female strap connector) and some household stuff ... quality webbing and some Fiberglas tape and one or two 50-cent Tri-Glide connectors.
And it'll allow folks with the SOC-C sling on a fixed-stock rifle to sample the single-point option without spending serious money (plus shipping) for that primo Tango Down option. For which you'll still need to buy that pricey BFG female strap connector!
I was trying figure-out how to secure a spare BFG female strap connector (for my SOC-C sling) to the most forward position on my fixed-buttstock Stag AR ... in order to try the single-point sling option.
http://www.oneshottactical.com/merc...Product_Code=SL-SOC-C-S&Category_Code=SL-BFGA
In most cases the charging handle will bind on any thick webbing wrapped around the stock at that point.
Tango Down makes a cool $US 60 steel mount that solves the problem nicely http://www.blueforcegear.com/product.cfm?type=cat&cat_id=&prod_id=57 ... but I'm frugal.
Even though I was using a single layer of 1.5" relatively-thin genuine nylon (strong) webbing (secured with a Fastex TriGlide connector around that part of the buttstock) to attach the BFG female strap connector, the AR's charging handle was very close to binding on the webbing when the webbing would narrow and scrunch upwards under the weight of the rifle.
So, I set aside the webbing for a minute (more about that later) and (I know it sounds low-tech) taped-on the connector (through its adjustable loop) using two half-overlapping wraps of ugly white 1" Fiberglas-reinforced tape ... wicked-strong stuff.
The "scrunching-up" problem was solved completely by threading the Fiberglas tape through a thin 1.5" steel TriGlide-like thingy (also called a Linal metal slide) that I poked/placed sideways (inline with the direction of the connector) into the connector's adjustable snugged-to-fit-tight loop. It worked ... the connector was solidly in the proper spot ... and nothing stretched or scrunched or moved under the weight of the rifle.
But it looked like half-fast design, with that ugly overlapping white Fiberglas tape. So I just (simply) wrapped the aforementioned cut-to-just-fit 1.5" black nylon webbing around/over the white tape (covering it totally) and secured it with its TriGlide ... which is sewn to one end. Simple.
The tolerances are very close, but this cosmetic cover-up does not block the charging handle (it can now be operated easily because of the new zero-scrunch factor) ... but (with its TriGlide connector optionally situated strategically right behind the charging handle ... as opposed to against the stock) I can also see it almost as an additional safety that can be removed in a few seconds before firing. Cheap enough to discard ... and in a real-life urgent and / or fast-developing situation it certainly would not be on the firearm.
(A quick-release Fastex buckle might be better ... faster but bulkier ... but this stuff works and it is all I have right now.)
The setup is solid, removable, looks sanitary / clean-and-smooth ... and is cheap (basically just the primo $10.95 cost of the BFG female strap connector) and some household stuff ... quality webbing and some Fiberglas tape and one or two 50-cent Tri-Glide connectors.
And it'll allow folks with the SOC-C sling on a fixed-stock rifle to sample the single-point option without spending serious money (plus shipping) for that primo Tango Down option. For which you'll still need to buy that pricey BFG female strap connector!
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This thread sucks......it quite possibly sucks more than anything that has ever sucked before in the history of suckiness.
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hahaha!!!! I love that quote!
There's a Simpson's quote for damn near every situation in life. If you know them, you will find yourself laughing while others are pulling out their hair in frustration
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This thread sucks......it quite possibly sucks more than anything that has ever sucked before in the history of suckiness.
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wow ....thats pretty sucky
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Lawl. 'fraid you tryin' to scam some poor schlup. This thread is worth a crouton at best.
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That is as ingenious a strap with a buckle on it as I have seen in nary a weekend.
Back in the day, we would lash our arms to the helm with such a handy piece o' kit. Aye.
"Necessity is the mother ... "
Sheesh.
The "ingenuity" ... a word which I probably should not have chosen ... lies in the f*****g brilliant (if I do say so myself) solution to the "strap-stretching" problem that made the first-try set-up look cheesy and homemade, and which was barely workable.
Actually it's just semi-ingenious ... I changed the thread's title after reading some of the comments.
There's no photo (haven't done the photo-posting routine before), but all you'd see (on the left side of the buttstock) is a single tight wrap of 1.5" black nylon webbing right at the front of the buttstock ... and coming from beneath it (rearward and at a 90 degee angle) you can see about 1.5" of slightly smaller-but-thicker black BFG webbing-and-threader ... and then the plastic Mil-spec BFG female connector ... all running parallel to (and about .75" below) the top of the buttstock.
On the right side of the buttstock you see the black Fastex Tri-Glide securing the trimmed-to-fit 1.5" black nylon webbing. It's all solid ... no slop or play anywhere ... and it remains that way even under the weight of the rifle.
If you remove the 1.5" webbing, you'd see where the adjustable loop of the BFG connector is taped (tape passing through the loop) onto the stock with two wraps of that white tape. What you cannot see is the thin steel two-slot triglidy thingy ...
http://www.mec.ca/Products/product_...older_id=2534374302803667&bmUID=1250178523128
... that I placed inside the loop and through which I threaded the tape wraps. That is the f*****g ingenious solution to the "scrunching-up" problem of the original half-fast webbing design.
(Although the thin metal slider on the MEC website is a 1" size, mine was a 1.5" size. BTW, that website has about five pages of fasteners and buckles and connectors.)
It works so well that I just thought I'd share it.
Sheesh.
The "ingenuity" ... a word which I probably should not have chosen
... lies in the f*****g brilliant (if I do say so myself) solution to the "strap-stretching" problem that made the first-try set-up look cheesy and homemade, and which was barely workable.Actually it's just semi-ingenious ... I changed the thread's title after reading some of the comments.
There's no photo (haven't done the photo-posting routine before), but all you'd see (on the left side of the buttstock) is a single tight wrap of 1.5" black nylon webbing right at the front of the buttstock ... and coming from beneath it (rearward and at a 90 degee angle) you can see about 1.5" of slightly smaller-but-thicker black BFG webbing-and-threader ... and then the plastic Mil-spec BFG female connector ... all running parallel to (and about .75" below) the top of the buttstock.
On the right side of the buttstock you see the black Fastex Tri-Glide securing the trimmed-to-fit 1.5" black nylon webbing. It's all solid ... no slop or play anywhere ... and it remains that way even under the weight of the rifle.
If you remove the 1.5" webbing, you'd see where the adjustable loop of the BFG connector is taped (tape passing through the loop) onto the stock with two wraps of that white tape. What you cannot see is the thin steel two-slot triglidy thingy ...
http://www.mec.ca/Products/product_...older_id=2534374302803667&bmUID=1250178523128
... that I placed inside the loop and through which I threaded the tape wraps. That is the f*****g ingenious solution to the "scrunching-up" problem of the original half-fast webbing design.
(Although the thin metal slider on the MEC website is a 1" size, mine was a 1.5" size. BTW, that website has about five pages of fasteners and buckles and connectors.)
It works so well that I just thought I'd share it.
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