Senator intelligence ?

I didnt know the police use machine guns.

And the article she has on her website is too funny as she keep mentioning that the Canadian army and the Military police have took over the parliament hill.
 
In my opinion, it is a serious mistake to arm police officers with these weapons. No matter what, the first victims of an attack will probably be police officers, because people who wish to do harm do not give advance notice.
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What? Huh? It. Does. Not. Compute.
 
gadget said:
Idiot -- These are the people that want us to trust them with our counrties security & its people...

" A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded ###ual and emotional maturity.”

Sigmund Freud

gadget
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This is such a sweet quote
I agree, fear mongering gets the best of the population to get the worst from the nation
 
Mr Wolverine said:
Security that relies on firepower has proven to be ineffective, and millions of Americans have paid the price for this false assumption with their lives.
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Au contraire merdemoiselle; the places in the US with the least gun control and most permissive carry licencing have exponentially less violent (even crime in general) crime than places with strict gun control and bordering on no-issue for LTC.

Despite it is often made fun of to say; but it is true is the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun, is a good guy with a gun. If the bad guy has decided to use a firearm for ill, no amount of laws thus far have stopped him from obtaining it illegally or attempting to use it to assault or murder (both are already illegal). So when it comes down to where the metal meets the meat the only thing the bad guy will listen to is a piece of copper covered lead flying at around transonic velocity fired by... a good guy with a gun! (Which I should point out was what stopped the last bad guy with a gun who wanted to harm the good senator and colleagues.

It is time that us average Canadians are stopped being treated like second class citizens. Not all of us can afford or have been unilaterally appointed to a job that includes armed security. Terrorists have proven that they can and will hit us at our most vulnerable. So let us private citizens protect not only us and ours, but those around us unwilling or unable to. To do anything less is to be willfully ignorant of the dangerous world we live in and to condone the slaughter of the victims waiting-to-happen our "betters" have turned us into.

Freedom isn't always pretty or safe. The only place I know of that is gunfree and "safety proofed" with 24 hour security is prison and people still die and weapons still appear there.
 
So her plan, in case of another attack, is to throw unarmed police officers at the shooter until he

a) runs out of ammo
b) gets tired of shooting and reconsiders his life choices
c) trips over one of their corpses and sprains his trigger finger

Seems legit.
 
"Security that relies on firepower has proven to be ineffective, and millions of Americans have paid the price for this false assumption with their lives."

Millions? Did I miss a newscast somewhere?
 
Until this letter I thought the belief that a .22 was dangerous up to 20 miles was the icing on the anti cake (argued to me by a complainant at a gun call on Crown land).

The obvious stupidity in her letter aside; I wonder if this is not some sort of political trolling to keep the anti gun movement going in the Senate, Parliament, media, etc till the October elections. Surely she has to realize the obvious errors, etc in that letter?

Anyway...she is a crystal ball in that if the NDP or Liberals get in, this is what we will face as firearms owners in Canada.
 
It is frightening what some people believe . Perhaps she would feel safer with a blank restraining order so she could quickly write in the person's name?

That'll fix him!
 
She sounds lovely.
[QUOTE


LEAKED FROM PARLIAMENT HILL: A LIBERAL SENATOR SPEAKS OUT ABOUT HILL SECURITY

The letter below was written by a Liberal Senator about the new security measures on Parliament Hill.
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Ottawa, Friday, May 29, 2015

The Hon. Andrew Scheer
Speaker of the House of Commons
House of Commons
Centre Block, Room 328-N
Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0A6

The Hon. Leo Housakos
Speaker of the Senate
Senate of Canada
Centre Block, Room 178-F
Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0A4



Dear Speaker Housakos and Speaker Scheer:

Subject: Security on Parliament Hill

I am writing to you to express my concern about the security measures implemented on the Hill in the wake of the events of October 22, 2014.
(very benign opening statement. No alarm bells yet)
Every time I enter the Senate Chamber, I see two armed police officers at the door, one with a handgun and one with an automatic firearm.
(very astute powers of observation. I'm glad they stand out. However, are you sure it's automatic?)
I must admit that this does not make me feel safe. On the contrary, I am frightened by the thought that a police officer armed with an automatic weapon could shoot it on the Hill.
(armed police officers do not make you feel safe? Really? I suggest you stop thinking frightening thoughts. Most people would feel otherwise by knowing that a police officer had a firearm and would use it in the defense of himself and others)
How many innocent victims would pay with their lives for this so-called security measure?
(Why do you think that innocent victims are being shot by police on Parliament Hill? What do you mean by "so-called".)
In my opinion, it is a serious mistake to arm police officers with these weapons. No matter what, the first victims of an attack will probably be police officers, because people who wish to do harm do not give advance notice.
(Well your opinion is noted. You will not ever be in charge of security on the Hill. If an attacker DOES give notice, does this mean they will shoot civilians first? They only attack the police when they give no notice? You did not make any sense with that remark.)
Security that relies on firepower has proven to be ineffective, and millions of Americans have paid the price for this false assumption with their lives.
(security that doesn't rely on firepower is reserved for concerts and malls. Why are you referencing Americans? Have more than a million Americans died due to Canadian security measures?)
I remind you of the incident of October 22, when the intruder—not a terrorist—was shot by Sergeant-at-Arms Kevin Vickers, in full view of the many RCMP officers stationed on the Hill.
(Thank you for the reminder. We completely forgot about that little fracas. Are you saying Kevin Vickers should be arrested? Are you saying that since the RCMP didn't shoot the "intruder" that maybe they don't need guns afterall?)
I would ask that you stop endorsing violence by having heavily armed police officers on site at all times.
(I am not sure what you consider "heavily armed" but this show of force is meant to dissuade violence.)
Even in the United States, visitors, members of the House of Representatives and Senators are not welcomed to Congress by armed guards like this.
(When is the last time an armed gunman killed a member of their military on their streets and ran into those buildings, shooting?)
We all know that the firearms lobby has undue influence with the government but, going forward, I would like to see decisions affecting Hill security being made based on scientific proof and remaining within the limits of the powers granted to you.
(Really? We have undue influence? The approx 2 million law-abiding firearms owners in Canada are wishing we had ANY influence. For now, let's use facts, as security isn't really a "scientific" endeavour, per se. The events of 22 Oct 14 proved there was a lapse in security and Parliament was in danger. A gun in the hands of a person acting in a security role prevented other lives from being taken.)I would appreciate any explanations you can give me about the security measures currently in place and about your commitment to review this policy shortly.
(I would appreciate a lot of things. I don't expect any of them any time soon. Hopefully you were told to mind your own business and go back to trying to ruin politics and leave the security work to the professionals)
Yours respectfully,

The Hon. Céline Hervieux-Payette, P.C.
Senator

cc: All Senators
All Members of Parliament[/QUOTE]
 
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